Large Cabin Aircraft opinions wanted

[Silver Wings]

Wet or dry ?

Taking a LAS - HNL and a route at 2,468nm
I based on cruise worst winds (Boeing 85%) at 54kt headwind
you can easily make HNL with 8+ pax.

With OEI you're also going to be oK with over 45 mins until a wet footprint.
With loss of pressurization it is also looking OK (just). Bit harder calc.

Time to ETP is 3:55 or thereabouts.


get a contact at Embraer www.legacybyembraer.com

and get them to run the final numbers......

One thing for sure, seems no reason to pay out more $$$ for a CL604/F2000EX when they would only take 8 pax on same route (not because of range but cabin size).

 

[CatYaaak]

Taking a LAS - HNL and a route at 2,468nm
I based on cruise worst winds (Boeing 85%) at 54kt headwind
you can easily make HNL with 8+ pax.

With OEI you're also going to be oK with over 45 mins until a wet footprint.
With loss of pressurization it is also looking OK (just). Bit harder calc.

Time to ETP is 3:55 or thereabouts.


get a contact at Embraer www.legacybyembraer.com

and get them to run the final numbers......

One thing for sure, seems no reason to pay out more $$$ for a CL604/F2000EX when they would only take 8 pax on same route (not because of range but cabin size).

You need to brush up on the seating config for 604's and 2000's.

 

[GVFlyer]

Wet Footprint

The last time I flew San Francisco, CA to Honolulu, HI, I listed Savannah, GA as an alternate just because I could.

GV

 

[bigD]

The last time I flew San Francisco, CA to Honolulu, HI, I listed Savannah, GA as an alternate just because I could.

GV

Savannah GA? Holy crap that's a terrible alternate. At least list Austin so people think you have some sense!

 

[fokkerjet]

The last time I flew San Francisco, CA to Honolulu, HI, I listed Savannah, GA as an alternate just because I could.

GV

Quit showing off...................

 

[johnpeace]

Well since the California coast to Hawaii is the worlds longest over water route without any alternates, I personally would like to be in a 3 engine aircraft... One of the nice things about the 900EX is that with the loss of an engine, the effect on your range is neglegible (less than 100NM change)...

Just out of curiosity...

Why, given that most of the airliners that fly to Hawaii do so on 2 engines, would you personally prefer to be in a 3 engine aircraft?

I mean...I know it's technically *more* redundant...but aren't modern turbofans reliable and efficient enough that 2 engine (gulfstream, falcon) aircraft are statistically as safe/reliable as a 3 engine airplane?

 

[400A]

Big D

I am dissapointed in you!!! He used SAV because of the BBQ wings at the cocpit!!!! You gotta start out with the wings,,,, then finish it off with a Black and Blue Burger. Maye you want to slap your momma!!!!

 

[bigD]

I am dissapointed in you!!! He used SAV because of the BBQ wings at the cocpit!!!! You gotta start out with the wings,,,, then finish it off with a Black and Blue Burger. Maye you want to slap your momma!!!!

Bah! Georgia BBQ only wishes it could be Texas BBQ!

I love BBQ smack. Heh!

 

[sleepy]

I frequently carry 9 pax on our 50EX's (the max it can carry in current configuration, but if I remember right it is certidied to carry up to 19 pax). I would not recommend it for long over-water trips with 11 people. It is, however, a great aircraft for flying around the US, Canada, Mexico, and the islands.

 

[400A]

Bahhh

No way man!!! you guys BBQ the wrong critter in Texas. Cows are for steak, PIGS are for BBQ. And by the way, that is with Sweet Tea, not Tea with sugar added in after the fact.

 

[G100driver]

No way man!!! you guys BBQ the wrong critter in Texas. Cows are for steak, PIGS are for BBQ. And by the way, that is with Sweet Tea, not Tea with sugar added in after the fact.

I am with you until started talking about Sweet Tea. Tea is supposed to quench your thirst, not cause your teeth to rot out.

 

[banned username 2]

I am with you until started talking about Sweet Tea. Tea is supposed to quench your thirst, not cause your teeth to rot out.

No kidding!

DOWN WITH THE SWEET TEA!

 

[Jeff Helgeson]

Mason-Dixon line and a few facts

No way man!!! you guys BBQ the wrong critter in Texas. Cows are for steak, PIGS are for BBQ. And by the way, that is with Sweet Tea, not Tea with sugar added in after the fact.

You don't live south of that line unless you drink Sweet Tea and unsweetened corn bread!

If you live south of the MD line and like sweet corn bread and unsweetened tea, you must be a carpetbagger looking for some Dixie chics.....so I've been told!

 

[Jeff Helgeson]

Haven't meet BBQ I haven't liked

Bah! Georgia BBQ only wishes it could be Texas BBQ!

I love BBQ smack. Heh!

You obviously haven't tried that mustard-based Carolina BBQ.

 

[G100driver]

You obviously haven't tried that mustard-based Carolina BBQ.

It ain't REAL Carolina unless it vinegar based .... non-lexington/western style sauce.