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Unprofessional? How about UNSAFE if they were REALLY taxing in with newspapers covering the windows. I doubt it happened, no one is THAT stupid.
I call BS. If you were that upset, you would have taken your bags with you. You would have posted a flight number, date, time and tail number. It's done several times on FI.com...when it REALLY happens.

Just because others are classless D-Bags, dosent mean it didnt happen. I respect Tristar for bringing it up and not having the FI 12 year old mentality of posting identifying info.
 
How professional can an unemployed porn star be?

It's a joke. And I take my porn star duties very seriously!

I was in LGA and saw an un-named MD-80 on the taxiway, FO with the window wide open as he sat with his massive train engineer hat on.

No argument here - it happens everywhere. I know I personally have times when I could have been more professional - I'm working on those everytime I (or someone else) points them out.

It goes both ways. Just like regional and major airline pilots have both landed at the wrong airport and on taxiways.
You're tired of the way regional pilots act? Quit agreeing to give away mainline flying to the regionals then.

In the words of Ed McMahon: "YOU ARE CORRECT SIR!!!" (on both accounts).
 
Unprofessional? How about UNSAFE if they were REALLY taxing in with newspapers covering the windows. I doubt it happened, no one is THAT stupid.

Okay - insult mode switching on:

Windows (windscreens) - the clear things that keep the pressurized air in the airplane and the wind/bugs/geese out.

Glareshield - the (usually) black thing covering the flight instruments fore and aft of the instrument panel. Usually providing some amount of protection from the instruments reflecting off of the windows at night/in low light conditions.

If you read very carefully, you will note that I said the newspapers were laying on the GLARESHIELD, as they taxied in - NOT covering the WINDOWS!!!

If you are going to try and nitpick me, at least bother to re-read the original post. I described exactly what happened, if that bothers you then perhaps you need to examine why.

I could very easily have identified the aircraft number, flight number, originating city, and arrival time. All that would have served to do was get two pilots in the hotseat in front of management and/or the FAA. That's not what I'm about. If I wanted to do that a couple of quick calls on the cell phone could have accomplished the task - but what would that have really accomplished? A couple of pilots with letters in their files and/or time off. I really want everyone here (again, self included) to think seriously about how we present ourselves. I guaran-damn-tee you will not be treated as and respected as a professional if you do not conduct yourself in a manner which demands that respect.

To be perfectly clear - Shuttle America is certainly not the only offender, there are major airline crews who discredit the profession, there are corporate crews who are an embarassment, ect.

As I said before - I'm a very laid back person, but I just could not let this one lie. This is the symptom, it's not the disease (again, if it were, I could have simply called the CP or FAA). I truly want everyone to think about how they are presenting themselves (again, self included).

The reality is "regional airlines" are operating routes and equipment which the "legacies" were only a few years ago. You (we) deserve to be compensated and treated accordingly - that isn't going to happen when pilots are simply regarded as buttom pushing chimps, and you aren't going to move beyond that unless you present yourself as, and demand to be treated as a professional.

Taxiing into the gate with newpapers strewn over the glareshield does not cry out "professional."
 
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Didn't an AA pilot get in trouble with the FAA for making a cell phone call to his company about a fellow AA pilot that was taxiing to slow, while he himself was manipulating the controls?

I heard it was a very high up management pilot that made the cell phone call while taxiing the aircraft.
 
Taxiing into the gate with newpapers strewn over the glareshield does not cry out "professional."

Neither does working for unprofessional compensation. There's two different stages to "professional." One is looking like one, the other is actually being one.
 
Which begats which? (Admittedly a rhetorical question, but one which I believe requires consideration)
 
So did they get out of the airplane with backpacks, ipods and Okley shades on? Wouldn't surprise me.. I agree with the OP, the "Regional" guys do no favors for the profession, or themselves.... in the end, you're only going to get paid what people perceive you're worth.
 
I fly a Gulstream for a Billionaire that insists we dress comfortable when we fly. He also doesn't like to draw attention to himself by having "stars and Bars" around his plane. Anyhow, some guys can't deal with flying without a tie and white shirt.
Anyway I set the standard for the crews. No blue demin and must have a collared shirt. Some guy can't deal with that and his wears blue jeans and crappy shoes.
you just gotta deal with what you got infront of your face. change what you can and accecpt what you can't.
I am sure the newspaper on the glareshield was not a big deal on the pilots part but and the FAA might just say you are a dumb for putting them there, I don't see anything in the REGS that prove a violation of anykind there. but preception is reality and if you walk through the terminal with a skakeboard in your uniform, I hope its got a bow on it. cuz if you ride a skate board in the terminal its a federal offence.
I love my job and hate people that think thier sheit don't stink
 
I back the original poster

I'm with the original poster and his message about policing our own. It's always a few that ruin it for the rest. It appears that this crew just doesn't realize how preception is everything. Does Shuttle America now days have an SOP entry against non-flight related material in the cockpit? I know that the clever placing of porn was outlawed back in 2000 or maybe it was late 1999. I guess newspapers will be outlawed next.

It's not hard to act and look professional while on the job. The public will travel no matter what takes place, how you look, but you can bet they talk about what they see. Boy do they and the things I hear and/or am asked from them. Geez, some of you guys need to help a brother out and clean up your act.

I get a kick out of watching the regional pilots stroll around the terminals with unkept (read wrinkled and unpressed) uniforms, shoes unshined or a pair that can not be shined, hair a mess, no undershirt, iPod headphones on and not realizing they are a freaking joke or don't care. I have yet to see that description fit a mainline pilot. Now I'm not talking about a pilot that is overweight and should be on P90X; because that's a whole different story.

I am sure some of you hotshot regional pilots that have taken offense to the original post will step up and say something to my post. It'll only confirm that you are part of the problem and not part of the solution. From day one of wearing a uniform (police dispatcher @ 18), I understood what it meant to present myself and the uniform correctly.

If any of ya have any questions feel free to drop a line or stop me in any terminal I may be in. Oh yeah, I am the guy wearing not only a pressed uniform, but I sport Army colors on a lanyard.

Let's all do our part to keep our professional image and standards high.
 

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