Labor Problems at the "new" US Airways

[TWA Dude]

I don't know about that one. Wish you were right though.

You're confusing several issues. First of all, AWA and USA are actually negotiating which was something the APA had no interest in nor did they need to do during AA-TWA. Second, USA is obviously presenting a hardline bargaining position. Good for them! We're effectively doing the same thing. Either we'll eventually come to a compromise deal or the arbitrator will impose one. Draginass' mistaken opinion was that people aren't getting along with each other on a large scale. Of course there'll always be a couple of hotheads here or there but there isn't the whole-sale denigration of a pilot group uttered by high-up union officials that we heard during AA-TWA. So my point is don't confuse issues at the bargaining table with how we're getting along with each other.

 

[captainjack]

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[PHXFLYR]

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[AWAJS]

Since the rumors are flying I'll get involved in this one.

Cactus73,

There have been some issues but we've been able to keep them out of Dan's office. Believe it or not, they seem to start with our guys not USA's.

If you are one of those guys jumpseating out of PHL please play nice. If you are asking for a free ride to work, it probably isn't a good time to tell the Captain that he should be thankful that we came in to save the day for them.

Just take a seat and read your paper.

If you have any issues, please DO NOT go to Dan's office, call us on the committee or call your reps.

We are having a national meeting next month so if you have any specific airline issues, let us know.

 

[BeCareful!]

I don't know about that one. Wish you were right though. Our (AWA) merger committee just sent out a blast email stating that the AAA merger committee will not back down from thier belief that date of hire is the only fair way to integrate. Even worse, they feel that their furloughees once recalled should have date of hire for upgrade, etc.

Green,

It seems like it's difficult for you guys to see the other side of the coin. Pilots at all carriers behave like barbarions when the word "merger" is uttered.

As an example, what if you guys were to buy JetBlue? You and everyone in PHX would be screaming DOH, DOH, DOH. Just as likely, JB guys would be wanting slots.

The point is, it's not personal. People just want the best for their families and careers. Seems like you guys are having trouble with that.

 

[Doug Parker]

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Hey BeCareful,

Have you guys not learned anything from past mergers?




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[BeCareful!]

Hey, BossMan......

Yeah, we have.

Have you?

 

[Doug Parker]

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Yeah, I have.......the MEC (AAA) that asks for everything and gives on nothing gets screwed in the end in arbitration. So keep it up, it'll only help us out.



Enjoy the CRJ, you might be there for a long, long time.............


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[BeCareful!]

Gosh, sounds like you're trying to hurt my feelings

Merry Christmas.

Oh, sorry.....that might not be PC. If it offends you then.....great

haha

 

[Doug Parker]

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I prefer Happy Kwanzaa, but I'll accept your holiday greeting regardless.






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[BeCareful!]

Well, that's progress.

Maybe our MEC's will exchange Christmas wish lists, and all the boys and girls will rejoice, and our airline will ride off into the sunset, cirlce the globe, and then ride rough-shot over several other airlines and go down in history as the best damn merger ever!

Oh....

sorry.....

got carried away....

 

[vetrider]

Green,

It seems like it's difficult for you guys to see the other side of the coin. Pilots at all carriers behave like barbarions when the word "merger" is uttered.

As an example, what if you guys were to buy JetBlue? You and everyone in PHX would be screaming DOH, DOH, DOH. Just as likely, JB guys would be wanting slots.

The point is, it's not personal. People just want the best for their families and careers. Seems like you guys are having trouble with that.

Not me, I would'nt be screaming for DOH with Jet Blue. I want whats best for me, yes, but I don't want to crawl over top of someone to get it. I would be perfectly happy with JB slots. A captain seat is a captain seat, even if the years to hold it are different at the respective airlines.

 

[OleGuy]

As someone who's been there and done that I can assure both sides that what the MEC's want or say will mean little. In the end it will be in a pencil pusher's hands (arbitrator) that has no clue what his final decesions will mean to each pilot in their everyday life. So there's nothing to gain for the line guys to get in a pissing contest. The one thing that's almost certain is that everyone will feel they got screwed one way or another and some will be more right than others. Glad I'm not around to suffer through. Good luck to everyone concerned.

 

[Swaayze]

listen to your elders and you will breathe easier.........

 

[vetrider]

listen to your elders and you will breathe easier.........

Yeah, but my elder just said he's glad he's not around to suffer through it also.