Labor Problems at the "new" US Airways

[BeCareful!]

Well, that's progress.

Maybe our MEC's will exchange Christmas wish lists, and all the boys and girls will rejoice, and our airline will ride off into the sunset, cirlce the globe, and then ride rough-shot over several other airlines and go down in history as the best damn merger ever!

Oh....

sorry.....

got carried away....

 

[vetrider]

Green,

It seems like it's difficult for you guys to see the other side of the coin. Pilots at all carriers behave like barbarions when the word "merger" is uttered.

As an example, what if you guys were to buy JetBlue? You and everyone in PHX would be screaming DOH, DOH, DOH. Just as likely, JB guys would be wanting slots.

The point is, it's not personal. People just want the best for their families and careers. Seems like you guys are having trouble with that.

Not me, I would'nt be screaming for DOH with Jet Blue. I want whats best for me, yes, but I don't want to crawl over top of someone to get it. I would be perfectly happy with JB slots. A captain seat is a captain seat, even if the years to hold it are different at the respective airlines.

 

[OleGuy]

As someone who's been there and done that I can assure both sides that what the MEC's want or say will mean little. In the end it will be in a pencil pusher's hands (arbitrator) that has no clue what his final decesions will mean to each pilot in their everyday life. So there's nothing to gain for the line guys to get in a pissing contest. The one thing that's almost certain is that everyone will feel they got screwed one way or another and some will be more right than others. Glad I'm not around to suffer through. Good luck to everyone concerned.

 

[Swaayze]

listen to your elders and you will breathe easier.........

 

[vetrider]

listen to your elders and you will breathe easier.........

Yeah, but my elder just said he's glad he's not around to suffer through it also.

 

[Capn Mike]

You know one more thing to consider is that the ual-aaa merger was killed by one thing alone, the ual pilots. Apparently when the merger was announced the AAA line pilots started talking about how they were looking forward to bidding the 747, getting based out west, etc. This scared the ual guys who eventually sunk the deal.

I thought that it was the Department of Justice that sunk that deal because of antitrust issues.

 

[joevollers]

Yeah it was.....
But, if we believed that; we would just feel like employees as opposed to masteres of the airlines

 

[Marko Ramius]

Actually............

I thought that it was the Department of Justice that sunk that deal because of antitrust issues.

The deal sunk because UAL management realized that the proposed synergies of the deal weren't going to materialize(sound familiar?)-at least not at the planned levels and definetely not at $60/a share. The agreement UA signed with AAA had a hefty penalty clause due to Airways if UA withdrew from the deal, but not if the deal was rejected by the DOJ, so UA tried to stall and get the DOJ to be the official reason the deal was nixed. As expected, Jim Goodwin pooched it and news of UA's plans leaked well ahead of the DOJ's ruling so they ended up paying anyway and loosing alot of clout in DC which would come back to bite them during things like the ATSB, pension funds, etc.