King Air gear up in TPA

[starvingcfi]

saw a king air 200 gear up at tpa today. very nice landing. looked very smooth. they said just one pilot and passenger.

incidentally, the news channel 8 (NBC) helicopter pilot is an idiot. was giving the play-by-play on the landing. doing a good job reporting. then, after the plane had stopped and it was all over, started talking about how the king air 200 is the "big brother" to the beech 1900 that crashed in clt this morning. not relevant (or true for that matter) at all. just thought it was funny.

starvingcfi

 

[TXCAP4228]

I guess its not a really great day for aviation. I guess there were no injuries, I am glad for that.

 

[RFtech]

Whats going on today.

North Carolina, Turkey, now this....

 

[starvingcfi]

had a c-310 gear up yesterday in tampa (tpf). that one was an accident. guy got distracted by another plane overflying the pattern and just forgot.

also, there was a homeless man that broke onto the ramp and got on an ATA aircraft in st pete (pie). not really sure how that one happened.

it's been a bad couple of days for aviation.

 

[BoDEAN]

Whats going on today.

North Carolina, Turkey, now this....

Just last night, 1/7, NBC Nightly News had a report that their were NO deaths in the major airlines for 2002. Who would have thought all this 12 hrs later

 

[Humblepilot]

incidentally, the news channel 8 (NBC) helicopter pilot is an idiot. was giving the play-by-play on the landing. doing a good job reporting. then, after the plane had stopped and it was all over, started talking about how the king air 200 is the "big brother" to the beech 1900 that crashed in clt this morning. not relevant (or true for that matter) at all. just thought it was funny.

starvingcfi [/B]

I find your personal attacks on a friend insulting. Grow up. He is accurate. The original design of the Beech 1900 came from the King Air 200. I am very grateful he was out risking his life for my country (Vietnam combat veteran) and serving honorably. I guess its just justice that he survived that meat grinder of a war in order for you to have someone to personally attack.

Humble

 

[Diesel]

Lighten up francis

actually the 1900 came from the 350, which came from the 300, which came from 200 which came from the 100 and then the 90 not the F90, which came from the queen air, and so on and so on.

 

[starvingcfi]

hehe

 

[ShawnC]

Just because he fought in Vietinam doesn't mean that his $hit doesn't smell.

 

[flywithastick]

must be something with the helicopter pilots and the news lately. One made some pretty stupid remarks during the news broadcast about an experimental crash near Houston a couple of weeks ago.

 

[starvingcfi]

gotta admit though. they do a better job than i could. i would get all nervous on camera and screw the pooch. but, as with every field, some of them are idiots.

starvingcfi

 

[Humblepilot]

Diesel (Francis),

Call Raytheon/Beechcraft and ask them. The design of the 1900 is based on the original designs of the 200. And tell them you think they should change the training materials that the provided to the airlines that operate them.

Adios
Humble

 

[Humblepilot]

Just because he fought in Vietinam doesn't mean that his $hit doesn't smell.

Shawn,

Unlike you it means a lot to me when any serviceman or woman risks their life for their country. In addition I have flown with him and he is a hell of a stick.

Humble

 

[ShawnC]

Humble,

Though I respect their accomplishment as a veteran. That still doesn't mean that everything that they do or comes out of their mouth is god's gospel. I know more than a couple of veterans that I would classifiy as a$$holes, and idiots, though I still respect the fact that they served.

Now he maybe all that but I haven't meet him, nor have I judged him, I just wanted to point out that just becase he served, doesn't make him an aviation expert.

Heck he of all people should know how much aviation is hurt by bad media reporting.

 

[Timebuilder]

Maybe that isn't what was being said by shawnC.

For instance, I have a great respect for the service given by many of my contemporaries in Viet Nam. The dustoff guys are some of the best helo guys I know, but they still put on their pants one leg at a time.

Maybe calling the 200 the "big brother" of the 1900 wasn't the best choice of words. I would have called it a "predecessor" of the 1900, or perhaps that the 200 had "inspired" the 1900 through a entire line of Beech aircraft.

Having been a working broadcaster, I have been forced to dislodge a foot from my mouth on more than one occcaision. I'm not saying that is what happened here, but when it happens, it's just out there, and you can't take it back.

We're being just a little too picky here, I think.

 

[Diesel]

Actually humble-

Yeah and the 172 is in line with the plane that wilbr and orvil wright flew.

The 200 was it's own breed. The 1900 was it''s own breed too. The 1900 came more from the 300 and the 350 which is more inline with the 1900.

About 4 years ago you used to be able to get a type in the 300 and that would cover the 350 and 1900. When the c,d models came out they made them seperate types. 300, and 350 being one and the 1900 being another.

The 200 has about as much to do with the 1900 as the 172 has to do with the saratoga. They both have wings, so your close.

It was a good reach i give him that. The fact that he was a military pilot has no bearing on the fact he's driving helicopters.

 

[Huck]

Y'all need a little levity.

Know the last words of a chopper pilot?

"Watch this sh!t. This is how we did it in 'Nam!"


Levity ends.

 

[starvingcfi]

Diesel (Francis),

Call Raytheon/Beechcraft and ask them. The design of the 1900 is based on the original designs of the 200. And tell them you think they should change the training materials that the provided to the airlines that operate them.

Adios
Humble

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ahh....i see what you did there. you took the name that he called you, and you used it back on him. very clever. verrrrry clever. i've got my eye on you buddy. everybody watch this guy. he's a character. very original.

laughingcfi

 

[msw]

The lineage of BE-1900's, BE-200's, etc.

I was told that the only "original" airplane that Beech has made since 1947 was the Bonanza, and that everything else has merely been stretched, fattened, engines added/changed to the Bonanza. (Except the Starship of course; and that appears to have been a big flop.)

Comments?

 

[wapilot]

What a pissing match!!