Kalitta

[pipejockey]

Wow bombinha, I think you just insulted 1000,s of pilots here in the USA who work for Airtran, SWA, Jetblue and the like, who don't fly international runs. I'd say over half of the pilot's at these airlines haven't flown to places you speak of. But no doubt, some of the places in the 3rd world are deadly dangerous, but I'm gaining great experience and someday I do strive to fly in the places you describe. As far as my flying a steam gauge airplane, it is more difficult to go from glass to steam than vice versa. The glass cockpit guys have every convienience at their disposal to assure situational awareness at all times.

 

[pipejockey]

By the way, thanks for your opinions, thats what this message board is all about bombinha.

 

[bombinha]

Hey Pipe my intention was never ofend anyone not even compare don't think that way and I know all these pilots you mention undertood what I meant. USA has all facilities you have radio contact all the time, you have radar coverage all the time w/doppler, and you have ILS in most of airports plus (on the east coast at least) an asphalt runway every 20 miles or so. Like you said there are dangerous places out there, but there are safety out there too. And USA despite all the facilities still strugling on safety issues and is not among the 10 most safety countries to fly or in other words we still have a lot of accidents and incidents here that could be easily avoided if FAA change some regulations but there is no interest. In doing that airlines would have to spend money and that's what is about. And you are right one more time steam gauges really givve you a lot more experience and expertise. But why would leave the right seat of a wonderful machine like the 727 to fly as an FE on a 747? As I understand your salary is already nice as an SO/FE you probably not gonna make as much.

 

[WillowRunVortex]

Hey Pipe my intention was never ofend anyone not even compare don't think that way and I know all these pilots you mention undertood what I meant. USA has all facilities you have radio contact all the time, you have radar coverage all the time w/doppler, and you have ILS in most of airports plus (on the east coast at least) an asphalt runway every 20 miles or so. Like you said there are dangerous places out there, but there are safety out there too. And USA despite all the facilities still strugling on safety issues and is not among the 10 most safety countries to fly or in other words we still have a lot of accidents and incidents here that could be easily avoided if FAA change some regulations but there is no interest. In doing that airlines would have to spend money and that's what is about. And you are right one more time steam gauges really givve you a lot more experience and expertise. But why would leave the right seat of a wonderful machine like the 727 to fly as an FE on a 747? As I understand your salary is already nice as an SO/FE you probably not gonna make as much.

If we have more accidents here its because the boys here wanna get the job done period. In Europa if every lights not workin its back to the hotel until they can buy another plane. Not here, we usually take what we got unless it is truly safety related. Our on-demand freight guys shoot NDB's in ragged-out DC9's into 6000 foot uncontrolled strips EVERYDAY! As far as glass vs steam?,,,with glass its "can I have another Pepsi while I watch this thing fly itself". Nuff said

 

[ABXbooger]

I got bored about halfway through your post, so I gotta ask...are you saying you paid for your time?


I have never hired before, but I gotta wonder, again, I'm not flaming, I am asking for honest opinions here...how does that look as you are sitting in an interview and they ask for a brief rundown of your flight time? Any guys in here who do the interviewing process?

 

[Digital]

We all enjoy what we do..at least we did at one point. How we got to our current qualifications greatly depended on when we caught a break, as well as, when we were breaking in to our industry. Flying the heavy equipment goes hand in hand with international ops, and therefore is considered to be more note worthy on a resume. But let's not blast a guy out of the water, or even attempt to under rate his qualifications because of the equiptment he flies. Given the opportunity, such as we all had at one time or another, most pilots would have travelled the same road. The only major difference is that technology has changed things, and a number of pilots who had to "do it the hard way"..Now Don't. Just keep in mind that the younger generation now moving into the newer technology, is just as eager, as each of us was when we began to fly. And their path will indeed be shaped differently than those who came before them. This is no great revelation to anyone, however, I believe it bare's thinking about every once and while. Heck, I've got kids, and I hope no one scorn's them should they decide to follow in their old man's foot steps. This industry seems hard enough at times. Sometimes we just need to take a few moments to look at the bigger picture! Safe flying all!!

 

[mtnflyer]

great post,Digital.

 

[pipejockey]

I agree Digital.

I got bored about halfway through your post, so I gotta ask...are you saying you paid for your time?

ABX, I don't quite understand what you mean. I clearly laid out how I got my flight time in my lengthy post. I'll try again. Do you really think one would be flying as FO for a part 121 supplemental, on the road for weeks at a time and functioning on the backside of the clock for free? I stated I left the regional scene due to the unconsionable pay and QOL there, so of course I am paid for the flight time I am building now in the 727. I am not going to pay them for the honor of working for them.

Now paying for the training one must go through before getting the job is another story. That was money well spent! A mere drop in the bucket over the course of ones career where seniority is everything, and the quicker you get to a career airline could mean 100s of thousands of dollars in total career earnings.

Now lets get back to Kallita. Do you have to apply to Kallita II seperately? I understand it is they who fly the 727's. I would probably have more of a chance with them considering my 727 time.

 

[lear24]

Another thread lost to PFT...

 

[Godvek]

Pipejockey, who do you work for?

 

[kingaira90]

Now lets get back to Kallita. Do you have to apply to Kallita II seperately? I understand it is they who fly the 727's. I would probably have more of a chance with them considering my 727 time.

Kalitta Charters II is a totally seperate company from Kalitta Air. Yes you have to apply seperatly. They have a few 727s and a DC9.- Not sure if they are hiring or if they will be in the near future.-kingaira90

 

[Feathersword]

Connie Kalitta honks bobo with his one eye!!

 

[whereamI]

Now paying for the training one must go through before getting the job is another story. That was money well spent!

You are an idiot!

 

[Rice727DT]

Connie II IS a different company. I have worked for almost all the scumbag 727 operaters and Connie II is the best so far! We are not phasing out the 727.

 

[Xfr8dog]

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