Kalitta Air TA passes

[atpcliff]

Hi!

From other posts I've read-I'm not at Kalitta...

Hiring now, one post said needs 70 crews-buying 747-400s.

2 years now, but who knows later

Some tours you fly all the time, sometimes you have several days downtime-often in Hong Kong.

cliff
DAL

PS-Can you live overseas and be home based there???

 

[iaflyer]

From other posts I've read-I'm not at Kalitta...

Hiring now, one post said needs 70 crews-buying 747-400s.

2 years now, but who knows later

Some tours you fly all the time, sometimes you have several days downtime-often in Hong Kong.

PS-Can you live overseas and be home based there???

We have several pilots who live overseas - Bangkok, Scotland and Europe. The company doesn't buy them a ticket to the US, so the pilots have to get to a place we fly out of, then either deadhead to the US or more often than not, they pick up a trip in Hong Kong or Europe and start flying.

Here is the wording from the contract:

The Company shall provide all transportation from a Crewmember’s
Resident Airport to the Crewmember’s duty assignment and returning
the Crewmember to his Resident Airport. Company provided
transportation for this purpose will be limited to/from the
Crewmember’s Resident Airport located within the forty-eight (48)
contiguous states, Anchorage, Alaska (PANC) and Honolulu Hawaii
(PHNL).

 

[On Your Six]

Congrats guys! Collective bargaining works - even though it might take awhile........

 

[belchfire]

It would be nice to get 14 on, 14 off...maybe in three years! Hope Atlas gets it...

 

[Guam360]

Congrats on your contract. Hopefully that may help us with our negotiations at EZ.

Dude, do you happen to live in Orlando?

 

[FreightGod]

Does someone have a better schedule in their market?

Tradewinds have some kind of 2 weeks ON, 2 weeks OFF system.

It only works part-time, depending on which manager forgot the verbal promise this month.

A bit of bitching will bring the system back to 2/2, then they will try again....

Congrats on the Connie Contract: I bet that took a lot of hard work and focused dedication on a few key-players.

(We are trying the same with over here, but it is like herding a flock of cats: No agree, all confused and most running around with no balls.)

 

[George Zip]

Could you Kalitta guys give us an update on the following:

- During your 17 day stretch, how much flying, how much sitting? How often do you get stuck for 3-4 days somewhere ? Some of that is fun, too much can really suck...

- How many maintenance delays are messing up schedules ? It sounds like that has not been a problem for a while.

- How many flight hours do you end up flying in your 17 days ? With the new hard credit per day, how many credit hour do you expect normal lines to be?

- How many layovers stateside (New York or LA) ?


TIA -

GZ

 

[refplusnone]

The most important question I would have to ask is can one to party like a rockstar while out overseas or must one remain sober while sitting. :beer:

Lets all get our priorities straight here.

Ref

 

[embpic1]

The most important question I would have to ask is can one to party like a rockstar while out overseas or must one remain sober while sitting. :beer:

Lets all get our priorities straight here.

Ref

Plenty of days on some layovers to have a great time. I have had a few 5 day layovers in Hong Kong. Couple that with the fact that there are several other crew members there and you have a recipe for some good times.:beer:

 

[LR25]

Could you Kalitta guys give us an update on the following:

- During your 17 day stretch, how much flying, how much sitting? How often do you get stuck for 3-4 days somewhere ? Some of that is fun, too much can really suck...

- How many maintenance delays are messing up schedules ? It sounds like that has not been a problem for a while.

- How many flight hours do you end up flying in your 17 days ? With the new hard credit per day, how many credit hour do you expect normal lines to be?

- How many layovers stateside (New York or LA) ?


TIA -

GZ

You bid on lines of known flying. When you head out from home to start your line, you never know if your actually going to do what you were awarded.

This goes hand and hand with your second question. If the system is all messed up becuase airplanes are broke, or trips have cancelled, then you may be needed elsewhere.

So, the percentage of time staying on your line is around 5% as a norm, its something that you either get upset at, or you just go with the flow.

Expect to fly 50-80 hours a month, that seems to be the normal right now.

Not alot of sitting around right now. The way its been running, you might sit 2 days at the most. Last year you could sit for 4 days anywhere in the system.

Getting back in the States varies, you can do Europe to the Middle East to and fro for over a week, or you could go to and fro arcross the Atlantic back to back, or keep going eastbound through Asia up to Anchorage back to the east coast. Just depends on what the need is, and luck of the draw



You come to work, do your thing, go home.

 

[ksu_aviator]

This contract is a sign that the entire industry is turning around. As a group, we need to push for better pay and better schedules. RJ pilots, take note. It's time to take back what was given up.

 

[Junkflyer]

Actually I don't think its a particularly great contract. There were some advancements, but a 5% raise after 4 years of working under an expired contract without raises is not a win in any sense. The 1's and 3's are gone which can be a pretty big hit for some. In my case it means 78 less pay hours than last year if I fly exactly the same. Now we will be paid for what we fly only (or guarantee of course) no extras for sitting. The lines now aren't very busy-most don't break guarantee and there are 33 reserve lines and 43 hard lines for August.

 

[dojetdriver]

This contract is a sign that the entire industry is turning around. As a group, we need to push for better pay and better schedules. RJ pilots, take note. It's time to take back what was given up.

Not all "RJ Pilots" are working with a substandard contract. Yeah, the hourly rate is always higher at a major, but at my current job, our work rules are better than CAL's and UAL's narrow body language. My previous employer's was as well. And the previous one was with a concession.

What exactly do you have as an SA227 CA for work rules that you can talk down to "RJ pilots" and say that they need to "take note"? If you want to talk about MESA, then great. They do need to "take note".

If anybody needs to "take note", it's UAL, NW, USAir, AA, and lastly, DAL.

 

[One Dot Low]

The most important question I would have to ask is can one to party like a rockstar while out overseas or must one remain sober while sitting. :beer:

Lets all get our priorities straight here.

Ref

Amsterdam - Yes!
Brussels (Leuven - college town) - Yes!
Liege - Yes!
Bahrain - Yes!
Dubai - Yes!
Hong Kong - Yes!
(and other places in between)

Partying like Rock Stars?
Most Definitely!

 

[iaflyer]

Actually I don't think its a particularly great contract. There were some advancements, but a 5% raise after 4 years of working under an expired contract without raises is not a win in any sense. The 1's and 3's are gone which can be a pretty big hit for some. In my case it means 78 less pay hours than last year if I fly exactly the same. Now we will be paid for what we fly only (or guarantee of course) no extras for sitting. The lines now aren't very busy-most don't break guarantee and there are 33 reserve lines and 43 hard lines for August.

It's an average of 5% raise over each of the next 4 years - so it's a 20% raise over the life of the contract.

Yes, the 1 and 3s are gone (the 1 and 3 were pay for sitting in a hotel on reserve) but we will not be on reserve in the hotels anymore. If they need us to sit reserve in the middle of our line, it's 3.65 now. Because of the way our operations department works, I expect to get paid to sit sometimes.

We can't expect the contract to give us everything - we are going to get somethings that we want, and the company is going to get some things they want. United/Delta/NWA didn't get the contracts they have overnight - it's taken them 70 years. We are getting a better contract each time we sign one.

One of the reasons there are less hard lines is that most of the Asiana flying is not on a hard line. We're down to one plane for them at the moment and the layover are long, so he didn't want to put them in. Those lines were pretty productive. Another is that we have two new airplanes online and the flying is just getting sorted out.

I'm sorry you don't like the contract - 83% of the crewmembers did so there must be enough in the contract to appeal to a large majority.