Jumpseating not in Uniform

[fatboyplt]

Anyone have issues jumpseating not in uniform. Ref your shavingbag w/ the usual sort of items contained therein. I am J/S on supershort notice and do not care to wear the costume. Thinking of just saying F it and checking the bag instead.
A few thoughts on experiences are helpful.

Thanks
Birdman
BTV

 

[BiffF15]

I jumpseated two weeks ago not in uniform, it cost me hair gel, shaving cream, tooth paste and about 10 minutes. I think next time I will show up in the clown suit, then do a switch once inside to a polo. Or in the cooler weather I might just pull the rank / insignia off and leave on a light jacket of other than uniform type.

 

[northstar]

...not sure what airline you work for or plan on jumpseating on... but if it is a different airline... you can't check a bag at the counter if you plan to jumpseat.

 

[RogerMOSA]

...not sure what airline you work for or plan on jumpseating on... but if it is a different airline... you can't check a bag at the counter if you plan to jumpseat.

might be bad gouge there, northstar.......i've jumped to my reserve job on Alaska a few times since the new rules came out. I've always gone in civilian clothes, (ie., no monkey suit). They've been more than happy to check my bag at the counter. Don't know about other carriers. Thank you Alaska!!

I always start my B6 commute(online) in uniform. Once through the TSA goons, I change immediately. Sorry fatboy, but I don't have any data points for J/Sing on OAL while in/out of uniform.

 

[radarlove]

Jumpseat in uniform or be prepared to get treated as potential Taliban.

There is really no excuse for jumpseating or non-reving out of uniform other than absolute laziness. The good news is that the lazy get to buy all new liquids when they finally get to their destinations.

 

[Floyd R. Turbo]

I've had no trouble jumpseating out of uniform and checking a bag on Southwest and Frontier. My shaving kit and equally dangerous Swiss Army knife go in the checked bag, everything else gets carried on.

Maybe I'm lazy*, but I'm not going to put on the monkey suit just to get past the former burger-flippers at TSA, and I've never been treated like Taliban.

Dress how you want, pack smart, and ask if you can check a bag. It ain't rocket science.


*Ain't no Maybe about it. I am lazy.

 

[accinelli]

As long as you can get past the idiots at TSA you'll be ok.

 

[AKAAB]

"Monkey suits"? "Costumes"? I remember many years ago, as I was just getting my feet wet in aviation, asking an Eastern friend of mine if wearing a uniform every day was a pain. His response was that he was proud to wear his Eastern uniform every minute of his career.

It's amazing how superficial we can be as we project our airline angst onto any symbol of the industry. Perhaps we should actually take some pride in the things that reflect our achievements in this business.

AKAAB

 

[radarlove]

I've had no trouble jumpseating out of uniform and checking a bag on Southwest and Frontier. My shaving kit and equally dangerous Swiss Army knife go in the checked bag, everything else gets carried on.

Maybe I'm lazy*, but I'm not going to put on the monkey suit just to get past the former burger-flippers at TSA, and I've never been treated like Taliban.

Dress how you want, pack smart, and ask if you can check a bag. It ain't rocket science.


*Ain't no Maybe about it. I am lazy.

Why are you willing to waste the time standing in line to check your bag? Why not just put on a uniform?

 

[FL250]

I jumpseated for the first time since the new rules and wanted to be in civilian cloths so I checked my bag. My bag was lost and I didn't get it back till I came in for my flight back home. It was my own company too....gotta like that one

 

[northstar]

might be bad gouge there, northstar.......i've jumped to my reserve job on Alaska a few times since the new rules came out. I've always gone in civilian clothes, (ie., no monkey suit). They've been more than happy to check my bag at the counter. Don't know about other carriers. Thank you Alaska!!

I always start my B6 commute(online) in uniform. Once through the TSA goons, I change immediately. Sorry fatboy, but I don't have any data points for J/Sing on OAL while in/out of uniform.

...you're lucky then. I tried to check a bag on Delta and was told jumpseaters cannot check bags at the ticket counter. Sorry for "bad gouge", but I even checked with a supervisor. Any Delta pilots??

 

[ReverseSensing]

Perhaps we should actually take some pride in the things that reflect our achievements in this business.

Good point AKAAB. I'm going to punch a hole in my logbook and start wearing it on a string around my neck. That'll look slightly less dorky than the Mexican general's uniform I wear only when absolutely forced to.

 

[AKAAB]

Good point AKAAB. I'm going to punch a hole in my logbook and start wearing it on a string around my neck. That'll look slightly less dorky than the Mexican general's uniform I wear only when absolutely forced to.

How obtuse can you be? Your logbook is simply a record of your hours spent in the cockpit. We're not talking about big watches, Ray Bans, or ratty flight bags. We're talking about the one thing the public sees and immediately knows they are in the presence of a professional pilot. If you are ashamed of that, that is your path in life. I choose to be proud to have overcome the obstacles that have been placed before me to become a professional pilot.

I was on the crew bus in FLL last week and saw a captain wearing what looked like the closest thing to rags as a uniform. It was an emarrassment to every one of you that tries to uphold our profession. His slacks were so old that the creases literally were wearing thin enough to see skin through. His shirt collar was all pilled like fleece and it looked like he was still wearing the first tie ever issued to him. His TravelPro had been repaired with gate hinges and his flight bag (with Richmond radio station stickers) was in shambles. I don't know what was going on in his life or what his financial burdens could possibly be, but at some point you have to take some pride in yourself.

 

[dee48eal]

i guess i dont see the big deal either.my uniform is the cheapest thing i own - i figure if someone spills coffee - no loss. im too lazy to do all the clothes changing.

 

[beytzim]

If it was up to me, we'd wear khakis and polo shirts. Looks good and comfy, just like our WN flight attendants wear. Now I'm sure I'll get a whole bunch of chit about looking professional, blah, blah, blah - from the same people who actually want to wear hats (What the fluk??) I used to fly corporate jets for the richest people in the world in khakis and polos, I'm sure I can fly the poorest as well!

Get over yourselves, get over your high horses, and let's all be comfortable in our jobs!

 

[TWAER]

DOn't worry man, they are probably the same people that wear their headsets over their hat while flying. I'm proud to be a pilot too, but the less time I spend in my uni. the better.

 

[ReverseSensing]

How obtuse can you be? Your logbook is simply a record of your hours spent in the cockpit. We're not talking about big watches, Ray Bans, or ratty flight bags. We're talking about the one thing the public sees and immediately knows they are in the presence of a professional pilot. If you are ashamed of that, that is your path in life. I choose to be proud to have overcome the obstacles that have been placed before me to become a professional pilot.

Well, I was mainly poking fun at your superficiality, because these were, after all, your words:

Perhaps we should actually take some pride in the things that reflect our achievements in this business.

I wear and care for my uniform with due professionalism. I don't consider it a point of professional pride. Believing that an airline uniform is somehow a reflection of your achievement is a little sad. My achievement speaks for itself each time I climb onto the flightdeck and carry out my one and only mission: safely delivering my passengers where they want to go.

Wearing a grass skirt and a coconut bra wouldn't make be behave any less professionally.

I'm a little suspect of anyone who feels professionally validated by their uniform. Professionalism is what you do. It is not an adjective to precede "flight case," "roll-aboard," or "pilot hat."

As to how obtuse I can be: we've only just scratched the surface.

 

[Lowrider717]

Take a vacation to Artesia, and keep your Dapper Dan, man.

 

[PunchTheClown]

Who cares? Do whats best for you. There is nothing lazy or unprofessional about not being in that stupid uniform unless you have to. Why put yourself in a position to be asked stupid questions buy even more stupid passengers? I'd just assume be as comfortable as I can because I know that the second I get to work my company will go out of its way to make me uncomfortable.