I am just talking about a seat in the back and not on the jumpseat up front. It is going to be a long time before an off-line person will be able to jumpseat wo direct authorization from the carrier D.O.O. or equivelant. We take Part 129 guys in the back and used to be on the js I go to ops today I will run that past them. Good point, and I agree with the FAR interpretation.