jumpseat abuse on jetblue

[mnboyev]

Well... as always, this is a hot topic. I fully agree, as most pilots would, that the js rider should and must stop by the front office.

Ive seen that a few have come to expect to be 'on' and not have to 'check-in'. We had 3 folks going from ATL to MEM a couple weeks back. Never stopped by. Well, ol cappy 'educated' them on the finer points involved with jumping on your neighbors airmachine....

The Ol DC-10 driver was pissed and didnt understand why the Ca was upset with him and his boys. I specifically asked if they had tickets or were jumping to MEM. I told him we just wanted them to stop by and check in... Just as we would if we rode on somebody elses jet. He said the agent gave them a seat assignmet.... Well folks here lies the problem ... TSA .. Post 9/11 Bla Bla Bla... It is still a courtesy to provide a seat for commuters last I checked. For which a freindly thanks and a nod should be standard ops.. Get out your license and medical folks. Save the tradition and keep from an embarrasing a-- chewing.

 

[717pilot]

TY-If your remember on one of those flights that the NWA CAPT said no to the J/S the Female F/O spoke up and said to the AIRTRAN pilot...."Its because of airlines like you that we are in the shape we are in" Amazing!

 

[CALformerCALX]

the Female F/O spoke up and said to the AIRTRAN pilot...."Its because of airlines like you that we are in the shape we are in" Amazing!

And I'd be willing to bet she had 350 hours when she got a King Air job.

600 hours when she got a regional airline job.

A total of 1500 hours when she got her first of three interviews with three different majors.

And finally got hired at NWA because she had 2000 hours and finally went and bought an ATP because she never made CA at the regional and had no PIC turbine.

But during all that NWA looked over 2000 CAs at the regionals with 5000 hours of PIC time. But they weren't as qualified as she was.

...but I could be wrong.

 

[UpNDownGuy]

I don't know where to begin with this...

I am amazed at what I'm reading here. I have to question whether most of these posts are from professional pilots. Diregarding the whole "CAL" vs "CalEXP" theme, I am disturbed by what I am reading here. This isn't brain surgery folks. Let me respond to some of these posts:


AKAAB: You found fault with the Exec-Jet pilot whom you expected to introduce himself... I don't know where to begin. Number one, he's a paying customer...leave him alone! I travel on a LOT of other airlines, almost always as a full-fare pax, and sometimes in uniform. If you question whether or not a pilot is traveling for free, look at the manifest, don't bother me. I don't feel the slightest responsibility to introduce myself to the pilots up front...I've got a full-fare ticket in my pocket! Leave me alone! I've probably been on duty for about 20 hours before I show up on your airplane, and trust me, I'm not in the mood to be screwed with... Wait until you have an actual emergency before you start recruiting my exhausted a$$. I'm my own travel agency...I get to pick what airline to fly on, and when, and if I get hassled by a crew, I'm looking elsewhere.


Ty Webb: You simultaneously denounce NWA for leaving your jumpseaters behind, then threaten to do the same to NWA pilots...Why would your leaving NWA pilots behind not be subject to "being pursued at the highest level right now, as it should be"? What's the difference between leaving your pilots behind for no good reason versus leaving their pilots behind for no good reason? Being pi$$ed off isn't a good reason to treat an innocent pilot wrongly.

As far as reciprocity goes: things balance out. I've been lucky enough in my career to work for companies that weren't opposed to jumpseaters in principle. At one point, I worked for a non-sched that didn't offer much in the way of reciprical benefits, and at other times I've worked for industry-leaders. Right now I work for ATA, which is very jumpseat friendly. The ironic part is that I personally fly the L1011, so I can't offer reciprical jumpseats, although my company does. Also, I'm an FO...does that mean I should expect hostility if I try to jumpseat? After all, I can't personally approve a jumpseat request.

Jumpseating is real simple: You are polite at all times, you ask the Captain's permission to ride, you do what the FA's tell you to do and at all times comport yourself as a professional. When another pilot approaches you for a jumpseat..try to make it as pleasant an experience as possible. All this talk of using the jumpseat as a weapon is really depressing.

 

[flyndesk]

And I'd be willing to bet she had 350 hours when she got a King Air job.

600 hours when she got a regional airline job.

A total of 1500 hours when she got her first of three interviews with three different majors.

And finally got hired at NWA because she had 2000 hours and finally went and bought an ATP because she never made CA at the regional and had no PIC turbine."

Cal:

Blah, blah, blah. Go start a new thread if you want to complain about this. I think they have one going on The Regional board....

717:

I am amazed at the unprofessionalism of the NWA crew. Thank god for AirTran guys- multiple jumpseats, nice folks, etc. But did you really have to point out that f/o was a female? Does that mean the captain was a male? Who really cares?

 

[Prof. Joe Vee]

Ty Webb: You simultaneously denounce NWA for leaving your jumpseaters behind, then threaten to do the same to NWA pilots...Why would your leaving NWA pilots behind not be subject to "being pursued at the highest level right now, as it should be"? What's the difference between leaving your pilots behind for no good reason versus leaving their pilots behind for no good reason? Being pi$$ed off isn't a good reason to treat an innocent pilot wrongly.

"Ty" has a lot of latent anger that he seems more and more willing to act on. It is becoming a trend in which intervention is becoming a foregone conclusion.

Professor Joe Vee
Aerologist