Judge says Mesaba CAN void the contracts

[N590MA]

Regardless of the injunction, my question is will ALPA conduct a strike? They might get their hands slapped if the judge rules against a strike. I guess we will see if the MEC was serious or just chest beating. Not bashing the MEC, I think they have done a great job at the table and in the courtroom. I just hope that the talk of not lowering the bar here is true. If the company liquidates, I'll find another job. I just would like to be able to hold my head up and say we did all we could and didn't accept a substandard POS contract!:smash:

 

[Terry Hunter]

Toast, Toast, Toast

 

[BoilerUP]

Guess I should have been more clear...

Are the airplanes owned outright by Mesaba, or leased by companies like GECAS or IFC? Or, like Pinnacle, are the airplanes owned by NWA and leased to Mesaba at inflated rates?

 

[PoorJetDriver]

I thought PCL airplanes are owned by a variety of lessors including Wells Fargo?

 

[COOPERVANE]

Good luck guys. Stay strong

 

[Pogue Mahone]

I hope Duane has the stones to call for an SOS.

It's about time we stepped up and let these judge and corporate robber barons we have had enough.

 

[xjgearbtch]

I curious how many fellow xj pilots will just walk away. prefferably at an outstation.

 

[ground stop]

lambert leasing and wachovia bank own some of the saabs and wells fargo bank northwest na trustee(?) owns some of the avros.

 

[Hpilot]

Total BS. Best of luck to the Mesaba guys and gals. A friend of mine works there and from what I've heard he's planning on a shut down before January. Since his wife has a good job he can do it and enjoy Christmas off. I hope there are more at Mesaba that can financially walk away. Northwest management makes ours look like a bunch of care bears.

 

[Northern Lights]

I see in the want ads that they are still hiring rampers at $9/hour. Does that mean they will be the highest paid work group in the company?

 

[fieldinsight]

Guess I should have been more clear...

Are the airplanes owned outright by Mesaba, or leased by companies like GECAS or IFC? Or, like Pinnacle, are the airplanes owned by NWA and leased to Mesaba at inflated rates?

Same deal. XJ owns nothing. Be strong, be safe!

 

[XJohXJ]

Remember back when people were pointing out that Judge Kishel went to school with Paul Foley, and everyone said "that doesn't matter, this judge is IMPARTIAL". I don't think he is impartial.

 

[CWUalum]

I walked away last month and was lucky enough to find another job. To all my friends still at XJ - Give'm he!! and stand tall. I wish you all the best of luck.

On another note, I agree that the judge was not impartial. He must be getting a bonus for this. Probably a nice steak dinner with his buddy Foley.

 

[TheGuat]

They will be recruiting at the "academies" and will have NO problem getting pilots to fill the seats of those that choose to quit. Upgrade times will dramatically shorten so they can get the coveted 1000 hrs of turbine PIC so they can get on with a major.

 

[YourPilotFriend]

They will be recruiting at the "academies" and will have NO problem getting pilots to fill the seats of those that choose to quit. Upgrade times will dramatically shorten so they can get the coveted 1000 hrs of turbine PIC so they can get on with a major.

The carriers with the best contracts are currently recruiting from these "academies". You have the choice of $13,000 vs $23,000. Plus there are nough pilots on the seniority list to fill all the upgrade slots for the next 5 years.