Job in Africa

[Nick5600]

There is a job posting on planejobs.com for citation crews in west Africa, and since I'm a pilot "which means broke A@@" I need help. If anyone has a membership I would love the name of the company. Thanks for the help.

Regards, Wondershowzen

 

[Chocks]

West Africa = "you don't want to work there no matter how much they are paying..."

 

[Senior_Citizen]

West Africa? Morocco? Libia? Sand? Lions? Al-Qaeda? .... No-Way

 

[750driver]

West Africa = "you don't want to work there no matter how much they are paying..."

I totally agree with Chocks. I had a friend that flew out of Africa for a short time and the locals would shoot heavy weaponry at his aircraft on a regular basis. He finally quit, while he could ... I would look elsewhere.

 

[Dave Benjamin]

Nick,

There's a better place to get info than this board......

http://www.pprune.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?forumid=37

PM some people that actually work there instead of listening to the " I had a friend that got shot at " stories. Good luck with the job hunt.

 

[mobie]

West Africa

Having flown out of West Africa (The Gambia) doing contract work for my past airline for several months training 757 crews. I enjoyed both the country and the locals. Also did North Africa in HECCA for 6 months and was great.

Some times it is what you make it.

Mobie

 

[Flywrite]

West Africa? Morocco? Libia? Sand? Lions? Al-Qaeda? .... No-Way

Most of those are North Africa....not sure about "Libia"

I used to work with a guy who spent some time flying in west Africa (Ivory Coast I think), he loved it but said it certainly wasnt for everyone. As Mobie said it may be what you make of it. Sorry I dont have the planjobs info.

 

[Chocks]

I've done Morocco, Ghana, Egypt, South Africa. If I never go back to Africa I will not be upset..

Just make sure your Hep, Tetnus, and every other disease you can take shots for are up to date. Enjoy the Malaria pills....

I'm not really a negative person....give me a trip to Europe ANY DAY!

 

[750driver]

Dave Benjamin - Check your PM.

 

[CapnVegetto]

Dude, will they make you put a plate in your lip?

I wouldn't move to Africa for ANYTHING. I'd work at McDonalds first.

 

[CaSyndrm]

Take any job that will help you advance in your career. Africa will only make you a better pilot

 

[CapnVegetto]

Assuming you can avoid getting shot and robbed. Or jailed. Or dead from disease. Or food poisoning. Or eaten by some kind of gigantic cat.

 

[Capt1124]

If you're *really* adventurous take a closer look at it- if not keep looking, there are jobs in the states.

I'm just one of those guys who's heard the stories, but they were pretty hair raising.

FWIW, I got a call from a guy about flying a 727 in Angola, and due to my circimstances at the time I would have taken it except he never called me back. This was the 727 that later disappeared. Maybe not getting the job was lucky....

 

[Senior_Citizen]

Most of those are North Africa....not sure about "Libia"

Ok, Libia or Lybia is at the central-north africa,......

 

[kingaira90]

Angola

I have a better one. I know a guy that flew a C-337 in Angola for 12K per month, oil company geology work. Month on month off. He said angola sucks but the pay was awsome and the month off (back in the states) was sweet. He did get shot at but I don't think that really bothered him too much, at least he didn't complain about that.-kingaira90

 

[AA717driver]

I totally agree with Chocks. I had a friend that flew out of Africa for a short time and the locals would shoot heavy weaponry at his aircraft on a regular basis. He finally quit, while he could ... I would look elsewhere.

Define "heavy". You mean like 12.7, 23mm or REALLY heavy like SA-2's?


Sorry, I don't work anywhere that I can die from just being there.TC

 

[750driver]

Define "heavy". You mean like 12.7, 23mm or REALLY heavy like SA-2's?


Sorry, I don't work anywhere that I can die from just being there.TC

TC,

Let's put it this way ... heavy enough to down a Falcon jet, and as a matter of fact it was Angola. But I'm sure these are just "stories" as Dave Benjamin stated. Ask him, he'll tell you. He's got a bunch of Int'l. experience in his E-120

 

[Nick5600]

Hey guys thanks for the responses. I do currently have a job as a PIC on a 560s. My think is I'm 25 and looking for serious adventure. So if someone could still help me out with the info it would be apperciated.


Regards, Wondershowzen

 

[Otter]

If you have any Ag experience there is always flying an armored 802 in SA.

 

[semperfido]

My think is I'm 25 and looking for serious adventure.

there is always the french foriegn legion. if that's too much then try The Crotch.

 

[bafanguy]

My think is I'm 25 and looking for serious adventure. So if someone could still help me out with the info it would be appreciated

Nick,

Air Serv Int'l is looking for Caravan and King Air pilots for jobs "...throughout Africa, the Middle East, and South Asia." I bet you could scare up some adventure with this outfit.

www.airserv.com and fax your stuff to: Stephanie, 540-428-2326. AD says the requirements are on the website.

Put me in your will, OK ?

 

[cougar6903]

Nick,

Air Serv Int'l is looking for Caravan and King Air pilots for jobs "...throughout Africa, the Middle East, and South Asia." I bet you could scare up some adventure with this outfit.

www.airserv.com and fax your stuff to: Stephanie, 540-428-2326. AD says the requirements are on the website.

Put me in your will, OK ?

Wonder why a HVAC company in the US is flying King Air's in Africa??

 

[bafanguy]

Wonder why a HVAC company in the US is flying King Air's in Africa??

cougar,

Sorry about that...it's www.airserv.org and is a humanitarian air transport outfit. I apologize for the "clerical" error.

 

[750driver]

You can also contact Blackwater USA. They have an Aviation Division. I'm sure if it's adventure you seek, you can find it there:

http://www.blackwaterusa.com/about/

 

[Dave Benjamin]

TC,

Let's put it this way ... heavy enough to down a Falcon jet, and as a matter of fact it was Angola. But I'm sure these are just "stories" as Dave Benjamin stated. Ask him, he'll tell you. He's got a bunch of Int'l. experience in his E-120

FU 750

As other posters that have actually BEEN THERE stated it's not exactly what you make it out to be. To be sure it's not as safe as other areas but to write off a huge region like W Africa as manifestly unsafe is irresponsible. Are some spots worse than others? Definitely. There are many pilots who have been flying over there for many years and miraculously lived to tell about it. There is a fair amount of flying going on there.

Would I go? Probably not. If I was single and needed the money or experience? Different story.

FWIW I've got family living and working in Africa.

Judging from the PM you sent I'd have to say you have some sensitivity issues. If you're going to post on these boards then you have to be willing to put up with someone raising a BS flag once in a while. If you can't handle it then don't post.

 

[750driver]

FU 750

The feeling is mutual. I said it all in my PM and I'm done talking to you. I stand by my comments. Here are a few older news links, late 90's vintage (about the time my buddy was flying in that area):

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/384119.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/243116.stm

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/africa/9810/10/congo.plane/

 

[Dave Benjamin]

Things change my friend. Late 90's was a while ago. There are always going to be spots to avoid. There will always be operators you wouldn't want to fly for. However the best source of information is pilots that currently work and live in Africa, NOT US. That's why I recommended the Africa forum on PPRUNE. Flying in active war zones is probably a bad idea anywhere in the world. That plane shot down in Congo was pretty much in the middle of a combat zone. The one shot down in Angola was flying over an area where UNITA rebels were actively enaged in combat ops.

Your blanket condemnation of the entire region is irresponsible and not helpful to the pilot who started this thread. If you think your opinions are more valid than those of the people that are currently working and living there then there isn't much more to say, is there? How much time did you say you had flying on the African Continent?

 

[FracCapt]

You can also contact Blackwater USA. They have an Aviation Division. I'm sure if it's adventure you seek, you can find it there

Blackwater operates primarily in the sandbox and the States. Casa 212's operate in both locations, the OH-6's operate mostly in the sandbox. Both require 3500TT in category, significant PIC, and the Casa requires a type and time in type for PICs. SICs usually have time in type as well.

 

[Bad-Andy]

Bahhhh.... Ignore all the "my friend was there and told me..." stories. I spent almost a year in Malabo, Equatorial Guinea flying a WSCoD. It was the most fun flying I've ever done. If you're young, adventurous, and single, go for it. Day to day living will probably suck, and you'll be frustrated in ways you can never imagine. (I used to think there was a limit to stupidity, but after dealing with beaurocracy in a dictatorship, I know otherwise...) You will have a blast.

But, on the other hand, if you're inflexible, in a relationship, or dependent on our American way of life, my advice is to stay away. If you want more details on what I mean, PM or email me and I'll try to answer. Here is the planejobs info, cut and pasted. Now back to more important things... surfing porn...

Title: Citation Pilot - West Africa
Company: MHP AviationProduct/Service: Location: West AfricaRequired Travel: NoneJob Type: Full-timeEmployment Type: Permanent
Description: Citation Pilot Needed Due to continued expansion, our client, an aviation provider in West Africa, is now recruiting ICAO licensed Pilots.
Requirements: Pilots will be required to have a minimum of 1000 TT, holder of an ICAO CPL(A)/IR, a Class 1 medical certificate and experience of flying in mountains would be desirable. Working rotations available are: 28 days on site followed by 28 days leave Or 49 days on site followed by 35 days leave This will be dependent on the operation you are assigned to.
Company Benefits: Our client offers good rates of pay, paid tax free plus all flights, accommodation, food allowance, laundry and overalls/ uniform.
Contact Information: N/A[email protected] MHP Aviation US
Preferred Response Method:Please apply in writing, enclosing CV and quoting reference D1C/02, to: Response Management, at the email address given below. Unfortunately, unsuccessful applicants will not be notified.