Jetride

[landlover]

I belive I will start a new operating standars like Wyvern and Argus. Just bump up the time requirements a little and then charge charter companies a lot of $$$ to be approved by me. Seems like an easy way to make money. Anyone else in?

I agree, I don't know squat about wyvern or argus. What do they provide? that so and so has X amount of time in type? Do they actually review logbooks and company records? No. Do they just have you fax over the last 3 pages of such records? wyvern/argus is a scam! i know of an operator that just pencil whips the wyvern paper work. what a joke.

 

[100-1/2]

Training Program and Proving and Validation Runs Anyone?

20 to 30 hours of flight time in training program AND
20 to 30 hours of Proving runs or Validation Tests?

AirNet could easily hire from within, if they wanted

and ditto the previous comment about Wyvern.

Or how about this,

Tell Wyvern to jump in a lake for a couple of months
on that make and model?

Low-Time Captain Minimums? are a joke. The summer is the
best time to get your PIC time for the regular wx mins when
the soup cooks up in the fall.

just my US $.015
Or, keep drinking the kool-aid.

100-1/2

 

[JJET44]

And than what do we do about our the companies who require Wyvern or ARG/US which, by the way, make up 85% of our business?
Here's the gig, only a small percentage of our pilots have issues with hiring a few guys off the street to get things going. The rest of us understand that this has to be done. People who can afford to fly Gulfstreams can afford to be choosey. If we start this up and go it alone without the business from the Wyvern/ARG/US brokers, we stand to lose out on a lot of business. This, in turn, will make our partners, who are supplying us with the ACFT, to think twice about buying more.
Lets stop thinking just about ourselves and the near future or there may not be a future at all. I don't believe for a second that our D.O. would hire off the street if he could fill seats internally and still operate with our current brokers.

 

[starcheckdriver]

JetRide is hiring 3 captains and an FO for the GIV. 1 captain and 1 FO will come from within and another FO from within will be selected in 6 months or so. So, they are doing their best to promote from within and it is the VP's and DO's strong desire to continue to do so. Taking two guys off the street is a necessary evil for the startup process and this will become more of an infrequent event as JetRide grows and gets more aircraft.

 

[FL410guy]

I know our do told me the same thing, but i have a buddy that was hired right into the G 5 as a captain with no experience at all, he had been flying hawker 800 as pic for about 2 years. the company is argus platinum rated, and wyvern, according to there chief pilot, as long as you go to school, fly the tracks, and do international course at school then you are qualified. seems kinda fishy to me, ask around and you will see that we (our company) is doing this wrong. this is our spots to be had not someone off the street.

Use your little noggin on this one. The company is doing what is right, legal and safe. They will hire 1 contract pilot, 1 full time PIC pilot and 2 SIC with in the company to get the time. When our guys get the time they can upgrade to PIC. I wouldn't want to fly as a passenger with a capt with no flight time in type. I don't care how good he (thinks) he is.

I really don't know why a very few people even made a fuss about this. Kinda common sense if you ask me.

If you don't like it. Go work with you buddy

 

[DAS at 10/250]

I wouldn't want to fly as a passenger with a capt with no flight time in type. I don't care how good he (thinks) he is.

Airlines do this all the time.

 

[ABCD1234]

Do you guys have anything based in the Pittsburgh area? Also, how long are your tours on the road (i.e. schedule)?

Thanks!

 

[DAS at 10/250]

Current bases

ASG
BDR
BED
BHM (closing)
DAL
ERI
LAS
LNS
LCK
ONT
SDL
SUS
MDW

Two different schedules. 15/13 and 8/6 depending on which certificate you hire onto. The rumor is saying that all road crews will go to a 10/8.

Rumors fly around here more than the airplanes though.

 

[LJPilot]

CMH is another base. We're on a 14/7 schedule along with the other based aircraft. We're away from home maybe 8 at the most on the 14, and during slow times I spend more time by the pool than in the aircraft.

 

[johnsonrod]

CMH is another base. We're on a 14/7 schedule along with the other based aircraft. We're away from home maybe 8 at the most on the 14, and during slow times I spend more time by the pool than in the aircraft.

What aircraft are you hiring into? I presume Lear 35 and 60? Any others?