JetBlue to land in ATL

[General Lee]

Hey, my brother flew on a Jetblue flight from SYR---JFK (He liked it a lot....darn it!) and said that there were alomost 100 people connecting to Delta for a trip to Rome. Maybe you can do the same for us from LGB--ATL. If you do, I'll be the first one to say "Thanks buds!" and buy you some food from the Manchu Wok in the B-Concourse.

I would love to help with the jumpseat---I believe we should allow as many jumps as open seats. I hope we someday get that Universal Jumpseat Card so we can allow pilots in the jumpseat in the flightdeck. Until then---we can only offer the same number of seats in back as we have up front. (The 767-ER has 2 cockpit jumpseats, so I believe we can allow two in the back..) If you ever want to go to Europe from JFK (France is wide open now) or ATL----or South America like Santiago, Aruba,or Lima---come on and jump on us. (You only have to pay the airport taxes for the country you go to)

Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[NYRANGERS]

Speedbird,


Your labor costs for 2002 were not 77 million as you claim, but $162,191,000.

Actually, all of the numbers you quoted were incorrect. You quoted the year over year increase from 2001 to 2002, not the total costs. Perhaps you don't know your 10k "far better" than I do. Perhaps you haven't "forgotten more about financial statements than I'll ever know."

I thought that the above numbers would be obvious, but, like you said: "that's what I get for assuming that other professional airline pilots out there can pull out rudimentary financial statement information when needed. "

Nice!!

 

[~~~^~~~]

...said that there were alomost 100 people connecting to Delta for a trip to Rome. Maybe you can do the same for us from LGB--ATL. If you do, I'll be the first one to say "Thanks buds!" and buy you some food from the Manchu Wok in the B-Concourse.

I bring you 70 connecting passengers, 6 legs a day. When you going to buy me lunch?

 

[NYRANGERS]

FDJ:

. If you want to ignore them and tell me that I don't know what I'm talking about that is your privilege.

I've read the jetBlue 10Ks many many times and feel very confident saying that know them far better than you. Since I don't expect you to know this I won't hold a grudge, but I own degree in accounting and also a MBA, so please don't attempt to "educate" me on how to read financial statements.
Sheeesh, I've probably forgotten more about them than you'll ever care to know.

So, since you seem to have a good handle on how things really are, and since I'm rather tired of trying to make reasoned response with you, I'll just leave you to your own and agree to disagree with you on this issue.

Have a good day.

So were your numbers correct, or have you "forgotten (alot more) about them than you'll ever care to know".

That made my day.

 

[FoxThree]

JetBlue Experience Levels

There's a thread over on Opinion.com saying that JetBlue has the lowest time Airbus 320 Captains in the industry. Any truth to that?

 

[SWA/FO]

Great points... I agree with everyone!

You guys think ATL was in the plans at JBLU and they just sped it up, like they did with that aircraft name or have they altered the big plan? I think they (JBLU) are ahead of schedule, right? I'm talking from the big picture stand point.

(Now, be nice to me RapidD and Networ-king)

Anybody hear about AirTran flying to Vegas, Phoenix, Los Angeles and San Fran.?

 

[AKAAB]

2100 hours A320 - 10800 TT

Yeah...you can believe the rumors!

AKAAB

 

[General Lee]

Fins,

Now wait a second, are you bringing us passengers or are we bringing you passengers? I can't tell anymore. How about this, I'll buy an extra eggroll and split it with you? Deal?

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[BLUE BAYOU]

This has been one of the more enjoyable and intellectual threads!!! I'm getting to like General Lee a lot more, especially if he'll grab me some Man-Chu-Wok!!! Additionally, I'm a huge Civil War History nut, can't wait to see "God and Generals" coming out this Friday. I think I'm going to like Robert Duval a lot more than Martin Sheen as General Lee-- what do you think???

 

[Networ-King]

SWA F/O,

I've always been nice on this forum........ ahem.... except for a couple of posts that were mmmmm.......... yeah. Anyways we're past that and I was actually gonna stay out of this thread and watch from afar, but you bring up a good point. The B717 does not have the range to make it to LAS, LAX, .....PHX aahh maybe, you 717 drivers chime in and correct me if Im wrong. Now the "rumor" is that a company that is to remain nameless is bidding for a contract to fly (a certain airlines) passengers from a city in GA to the west coast since their airplanes don't have the range. This is suppose to be happening in the A-320. Whether they get the contract or not is yet to be determined. I am not just getting this out of the thin air, but it is from a real good source. Now don't go beating me up too badly, because I did say this is just a "rumor" for now.

PS. Im still waiting to hear the rebutle from speedbird. And speedbird are you by any chance from across the pond and if you are, your initials wouldn't be OC by any chance?

 

[General Lee]

Blue Bayou,

Unfortunately I am not a big Civil War buff, and my name actually refers to the car from the Dukes of Hazard. ( I luv Daisy Duke and her shorts) But, I think Robert Duval would make a better General Lee than Martin Sheen----he really is a liberal bast@rd.
The Man-chu-wok is pretty good---unless you have a flight over 4 hours---then you might pass and try the Charlie's Cheese Steak Factory. (A cramped cockpit with the after affects of Man-chu-wok is not good, and holding it for over 4 hours can cause a problem)

Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Ty Webb]

Things might get very interesting in ol' Hotlanta.

 

[FlyDeltasJets]

So were your numbers correct, or have you "forgotten (alot more) about them than you'll ever care to know".

That made my day.

I do have to admit, I got a real kick out of it myself!

 

[Jeff G]

Re: JetBlue Experience Levels

There's a thread over on Opinion.com saying that JetBlue has the lowest time Airbus 320 Captains in the industry. Any truth to that?

Yes, that's true. By definition, someone who just upgraded to A320 captain today for the first time is the lowest time A320 captain in the industry. And since JetBlue is one of the few A320-operating airlines which is upgrading captains at the moment, that means that JetBlue will often have the lowest time A320 captains in the industry.

Does that answer your question? Just trying to be helpful...

 

[rapidD]

General et al

Great thread. Thanks for the lively discussion. As for the food at Harstfield, actually the bookstore in Concourse B has better grub....if you can put up with the granola types leafing through the merchandise. Fly safe all.

rapidD

 

[Maxx Power]

Jeff G,
I think the kind of low time Airbus captains that is being talked about is Total Time. I'm not knocking Jet Blue pilots. I did not even read the post you are talking about. I skipped to the last page. However I don't think the low time means just upgraded. While I'm sure Jet Blue has many very high time guys I don't think you will find many 5,000 hours TT guys in the left seat of the Airbus at NW or UAL. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying 5,000 hours is low time. I'm just saying it is for an Airbus captain.

 

[AlbieF15]

Eagleflip, Reuter f16, and some others that are JB captains likely have less than 4000TT.

However...I KNOW those guys, and each is a highly expereinced, former military fighter pilot. They have been instructor pilots, mission commanders, have flown in combat. They are as comfortable flying upside down as right side up. They know that stalls are a function of AOA, not aircraft attitude or airspeed. They understand, having been part of a team in combat, that teamwork as a crew (to include FAs, mx, and everyone else) is vital to mission success. I know they are not only "good folks", they are good aviators.

Don't know where you are going with your "low total time" gig, but I'd fly with these guys anyday. Likewise, I'd put my family on their aircraft without any hestiation knowing they were in good, capable hands.

I'm not bashing heavy drivers, civilians, or captains from other majors. What I am saying is a 2000+ hour fighter pilot is going to do a da*n fine job as a captain. JB has hired a LOT of fighter guys, and since they only get about 800-1000 hours in the first year as an FO, by the time they upgrade to Captain they still don't have super high total times.

 

[Flying Freddie]

Dear Mister Maxx Power,
What is the right amount of time to be an Airbus captain? I bet the astronaut corps doesn't have many folks with 5000 hours.
While hours are nice, being competent is much mo better!

 

[Jeff G]

Jeff G,
I think the kind of low time Airbus captains that is being talked about is Total Time.

I deliberately "misunderstood" FoxThree's comment because I thought it was asinine. Sorry you didn't get it.

 

[Helos2Galaxy]

I think that JBLU in ATL isn't going to be any nail in my company's coffin. What makes you think our SONG won't compete and start the same routes out west? We do have deeper pockets to keep matching fares longer...


Our SONG will be a superior product....

We will have more free channels (though DISH vs. DirectTV),

You can order a PPV movie (watching CNN over and over gets boring, then peolple look at me funny when I watch the Cartoon Network)

Plug in your laptop and surf the web,

Start an MP3 file of music to be used and listened to every time you fly for a SONG,

757s vs 320s (debatable upon one's preference).

I have jumpseatted on B6 and you do have a good product; & I did apply there when I thought we were going to keep furloughing.

So, I wish you all the best but don't think that 3 flights a day to LGB is going to put me out of a job....