JetBlue reducing to 3 FAs for 5 available Jumpseats

[seahorse]

I was recently told that JetBlue will reduce to 3 FAs on all flights, which will now allow 5 total jumpseats for offline commuting pilots, with 3 Cabin jumpseats and 2 flight deck jumpseats.

Can someone please confirm when this will happen? Thanks.

 

[BLUE BAYOU]

Actually, planes are currently being reconfigured to eliminate one row of seats in front of the exit rows-- which will make the aircraft's capacity 150. 36 inch pitch in front of exit rows (more than some first class) and 34 inch pitch in rear of exit rows. This will also eliminate 1 flight attendant at a total cost savings of 25-30 million over 5 years (that's what they say). No word on removal of swing-out jumpseat (it has safety equipment stored in it), so yes, there will be a total of 3 jumpseats available in back and 2 up in the cockpit. Apparently, Delta has done this also on some of their 737s, but did not move the seats to increase pitch.

 

[Dogwood]

I was recently told that JetBlue will reduce to 3 FAs on all flights, which will now allow 5 total jumpseats for offline commuting pilots, with 3 Cabin jumpseats and 2 flight deck jumpseats.

Can someone please confirm when this will happen? Thanks.

Horse,

Should be completed by Mar 1. After the FAs are retrained on how to serve and evacuate an aircraft with 3 FAs, they will make the switch.

DW

 

[JetDude]

*Deleted* - Nevermind, now I understand what the poster was alluding to.

 

[ERJpusher]

I was recently told that JetBlue will reduce to 3 FAs on all flights, which will now allow 5 total jumpseats for offline commuting pilots, with 3 Cabin jumpseats and 2 flight deck jumpseats.

Can someone please confirm when this will happen? Thanks.

My understanding from the FAA is that the flight attendant jumpseats are available to that company's pilots only. The reason is that an offline jumpseater is not considered qualified to work the exit doors.

 

[Oh-ryan]

Are the three remaining FAs going to be the good looking ones?

 

[AKAAB]

My understanding from the FAA is that the flight attendant jumpseats are available to that company's pilots only. The reason is that an offline jumpseater is not considered qualified to work the exit doors.

That is incorrect. Offline jumpseaters can sit in the extra FA jumpseats - pilots and FA's.

 

[clickclickboom]

Are the three remaining FAs going to be the good looking ones?

no... all dudes that will want to toss your salad

 

[CRJ900Pilot]

Keep in mind.....

Jumpseating Flight Attendants have PRIORITY for the 3 jumps in the back, Pilots have it for the 2 in the front.

And this will take effect after March 1st.....we still have 4 FA's till then.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

My understanding from the FAA is that the flight attendant jumpseats are available to that company's pilots only. The reason is that an offline jumpseater is not considered qualified to work the exit doors.

Hell I work there and I can't remember how to open those doors...

 

[seahorse]

What is the priority for the cabin jumpseats among OFFLINE PILOTS & FAs? For example lets say both flight deck jumpseats are taken, and an AA pilot and a Delta FA show up at the same time for using the cabin jumpseats? It was my understanding that anyone offline - whether pilot or FA, were all equal priority.

 

[AutoBus]

Actually, planes are currently being reconfigured to eliminate one row of seats in front of the exit rows-- which will make the aircraft's capacity 150. 36 inch pitch in front of exit rows (more than some first class) and 34 inch pitch in rear of exit rows. This will also eliminate 1 flight attendant at a total cost savings of 25-30 million over 5 years (that's what they say). No word on removal of swing-out jumpseat (it has safety equipment stored in it), so yes, there will be a total of 3 jumpseats available in back and 2 up in the cockpit. Apparently, Delta has done this also on some of their 737s, but did not move the seats to increase pitch.

That's one way to increase the load factor, reduce the number of seats

 

[zkmayo]

I realize you said at the same time, but whoever checked in first would get the fa js if the cabin is full in the senario you described. hopefully all js'ers would make each other known to each other if it came to this and not make the capt decide who got on and who had to wait til the next flight if it came to that.

 

[737 Pylt]

no... all dudes that will want to toss your salad

Priceless!

737

 

[clickclickboom]

Priceless!

737

I work at JB and let me tell you we have purse carrying, makeup wearing, extreme gay inflight running around like rabbits

6 hour transcon 4 dudes ( okay dudettes ) in the back every ten minutes they are calling the front bitching about the rude guy in 24 F with the ZZ Top Shirt that is being mean to them.

Okay Okay In know politically correct

 

[clickclickboom]

By the way flew a San Juan turn the other day and the plane had been configured with 150 seats.. I am 6 ft 1" and I fit in there real nice.. While it is hard for me to understand how removing revenue seats can make a company more money I will say that the customers will be fighting for the front seats

 

[CTflyer]

By the way flew a San Juan turn the other day and the plane had been configured with 150 seats.. I am 6 ft 1" and I fit in there real nice.. While it is hard for me to understand how removing revenue seats can make a company more money I will say that the customers will be fighting for the front seats

I think the real savings is mostly coming from the one less FA per flight.....one less hotel room, one less salary, less benefits, less perdiem times all the flights per day you will see the savings add up...Remember Neelemans thing about the number of employees/aircraft being too high? I think he called it "FTE". This will bring it down.

 

[8vATE]

I think the real savings is mostly coming from the one less FA per flight.....one less hotel room, one less salary, less benefits, less perdiem times all the flights per day you will see the savings add up...Remember Neelemans thing about the number of employees/aircraft being too high? I think he called it "FTE". This will bring it down.

Its a fine line trying to balance revenue generation/casm to passenger comfort.

Historically, what did you have?
Pack 'em in like sardines.... More revenue and lower CASM.

After we pulled the one row out reducing from 162 to 156... the line was substantially blurred. Now with the focus on raising fares with the expected decrease in load factors.. .this was pretty much written on the wall.

But even after all that... the company said it would "save" $30 million over five years??? Those are "fudged" numbers since I don't think they really know what it would "cost". The opportunity cost of lost revenue is THE big question mark. The only costs that would be iron clad would be the flight attendant costs mentioned previously and some fudged cost for fuel savings for the weight reduction.

Who knows....??
Others have tried pulling seats out...
Not too successfully...

 

[FNG320]

What is the priority for the cabin jumpseats among OFFLINE PILOTS & FAs? For example lets say both flight deck jumpseats are taken, and an AA pilot and a Delta FA show up at the same time for using the cabin jumpseats? It was my understanding that anyone offline - whether pilot or FA, were all equal priority.

Offline pilots and FAs are on a "first come-first serve" for all of the seats (regular or jumpseats). There is no distinction between FAs or pilots on this list. The first few jumpseaters will get regular seats if available (maybe all if there are enough), then they will start handing out the jumpseats.

FNG

 

[chperplt]

Who knows....??
Others have tried pulling seats out...
Not too successfully...

My guess is you'll see an additional charge for those "premium" seats. We (Allegiant) pulled seats out to get from 162 to 150 a couple years ago.

Obviously we're flying a different type of service than JB, but with rock bottom fares, this is a great way of getting extra revenue. People will pay an extra 10-15 bucks to get those seats and that revenue, added to the 1 less FA will equal a lot of money.

 

[flying bubba]

Actually, only approx 11% of jb's total flights go out with 151-156 paying pax. That means that on 89% of the flights that an extra flight attendant is being toted around, and so are the weight of the empty seats.
Of course there might be some jumpseaters that fill up on many flights but they will have to fight for the jumpseats more now. Also, recently heard that it will be one fa upfront and two in the back, and that the "extra" jumpseat up front could not be used for nonrev. Just what I heard.....

 

[BLUE BAYOU]

Actually, heard from a good source that the two flight attendants up front were going to stay put, and that there will only one in the back. Flew on one of our planes that was reconfigured--they didn't change the space in row one, but the remaining seats between row one and the new exit rows (10-11) are extremely comfortable!!!

 

[8vATE]

Also, recently heard that it will be one fa upfront and two in the back, and that the "extra" jumpseat up front could not be used for nonrev. Just what I heard.....

That would be a bummer.....

Hopefully crewmembers in uniform would be an exception.

 

[Dizel8]

I heard what BB said, that the two seats up front will be jbu F/A's and one F/A in the back. Both the FAA and the company prefers this.