Jetblue Pilots Vote Union Down

[donvag]

As long as USair 190 pay remains low, so will the 190 pay at jetblue.

Im dissapointed at my fellow co-workers.

donvag- 1 out of 646

 

[J32driver]

While I agree that it sucks we didn't vote in the union and also agree the E190 pay is low, it isn't as low as USAirways E190 payscales.

You FRIGGIN morons. Why do you thing USAirways pay on the 190 is so low? Its because they matched JetBlue's original payscale. The pay sucks because we made it that way. If we had a union, we would have had a say. Now we'll just continue to bend over and take it.

 

[hawk996]

Vote tally..

http://www.nmb.gov/electionresults/jetblue-jpa_02-03-09.pdf

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Vote tally..

http://www.nmb.gov/electionresults/jetblue-jpa_02-03-09.pdf

Elegible voters 1937

Votes cast 646


Pathetic!

 

[Blue Dude]

Ill show the same "bargaining leverage" that we have, then the "bargaining leverage" alpa has had i.e giving almost everything back the last 8 years.

the reality is this, when push comes to shove, a CBA or PEA isnt worth the paper its written on. the last 8 years have proven that.

*crickets*

 

[jbucpt]

You FRIGGIN morons. Why do you thing USAirways pay on the 190 is so low? Its because they matched JetBlue's original payscale. The pay sucks because we made it that way. If we had a union, we would have had a say. Now we'll just continue to bend over and take it.

how can this be?? they have a union and must have "BARGAINING LEVERAGE?? oh wait, the pilots got screwed by their ALPA BRETHENS and now its the jetblue pilots fault..........???

 

[Noserider76]

Why wouldn't you want protections that a union can afford?

Because he's got his at the top of the list and he's very afraid, with union representation, some of the C-scalers that allow him that wage may want some of the pie and have the leverage to get it.

Often forgotten in the talk of concessions and imperfect unions is the fact that almost everything that makes this job desireable was achieved by ALPA over a very long period of time. He and every non-ALPA pilot group are the direct beneficiaries of decades of the blood and sweat of ALPA members. Though they benefit from years of pattern bargaining, they and others willing to do this job for much less than the rates others have worked for, are the biggest culprits in the downward spiral of the profession.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Well this isn't a surprise. It's actually quite typical for the first union vote. When the union drive begins, the senior pilots earning over $150K/yr usually come out strong against union representation. Their seemingly "educated" comments tend to sway many newer, younger, less experienced pilots who in return vote "no" for union representation.

Management breathes a sigh of relief, the senior pilots go back to their homes with their swimming pools and Merdedes Benz's, and the junior pilots go back to their apartments and crash pads thinking they made a good decision; yet they have a lingering concern in the back of their minds.

The following year, the majority of the pilot group begin to realize that they are not the ones bringing home $150K+ and they are not enjoying the fruits of their labor as much as those who voted against the union. The management continues business as usual; pissing off pilots, abusing work rules, and offering nothing in the way of improvements.

The second attempt at unionization usually passes with an overwhelming majority vote. And it only wasted a couple years, thousands of work hours, and many of your hard earned dollars for the rest of the pilot group to pull their heads out of their butts.

I'm sure someday the exact same process will unfold at my airline.

smells like animal farm....

 

[Daddy]

Smells like somethin

 

[coogebeachhotel]

Anyone at Nortwest/Delta that can confirm or deny the rumor that the names of BOB's is circulating the forums?

If this is true it could be an ugly commute