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jetBlue performance software

maremare505

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Can somebody out there provide the name. manufacturer and latest version (if known) of the V speeds, landing dist., ect performance software used by JBU on their A320 & E-190.
 

CaptainSpaz

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Sure I could... however, I don't think that would be appropriate. Why do you want to know?
 

maremare505

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Tks dispatchguy.
CaptSpaz; the question was asked by an indian colleague whom still uses the AIRBUS RTOW's tables program and is considering/evaluating SABRE and what he called OPS which he heard is what B6 uses.
Tks to dispatchguy he now knows where to go.
 

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Good thing you kept your silence. The next thing you know terrorists will be landing planes all over...


good thing he did, the way the fire people on the fly around here. you can't just go round giving away the company secrets... no one else knows about the magic behind the laptop NOONE!
 

Beetle007

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company secrets... no one else knows about the magic behind the laptop NOONE!

You have to use a laptop to get the performance info? I thought most people on the Airbus were just having it automatically uploaded over the acars.
 

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We do the performance calculations ourselves and put the data in the box. Why would we want to have a central load planner do it over ACARS? By the time they'd get around to looking it over, we're already gone.
 

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We do the performance calculations ourselves and put the data in the box. Why would we want to have a central load planner do it over ACARS? By the time they'd get around to looking it over, we're already gone.

I just remember it being a little cumbersome to use a laptop. We type the bags, passengers, and runway into an ACARS system and it just uploads the V-Speeds and Weights into the FMS. (we have to hit a confirm button for the V-Speeds). I admit that it used to take forever when we had load planners.
 

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I still think jetBlue is the best LCC in the industry. I just think it is out-dated to do weight and balance on a laptop.
 

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I believe it's a cost saving measure. I didn't mind it so much as it forces the F.O. to look at weather, and aircraft performance. It isn't a big deal, takes just a minute or two.

On a related note, I caught a Southwest flight home the other day and that F.O. and a computer tablet in his lap. I'm guessing it was a similar idea.

S.
 

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OUR (jb) laptop plan I believe came from Southwest...I'm sure Neelman saw the benefits of the laptop and altered the plan slightly to every pilot at JB having a computer instead of it being ship dependant.

I tell ya....LOVE...LOVE not having to do FOM, OPSSPEC revisions...since EVERY manual is on our laptops.
 

Headfake14

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hahaha...it does porn...er..I mean, moral boosting video learning well.
 

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I still think jetBlue is the best LCC in the industry. I just think it is out-dated to do weight and balance on a laptop.


Out dated? Load planners are out dated.

It's fun when an airline has an issue with ACARS and cannot get their numbers. We just wave when we pass by them at the pad. :)
 

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I still think jetBlue is the best LCC in the industry. I just think it is out-dated to do weight and balance on a laptop.

You couldn't be more incorrect. JetBlue does a lot of stuff that's pretty screwed up, but OPS isn't one of them. 30 seconds after we get the numbers we have W&B/performance numbers. I literally can't count the amount of times I've taxied around an airplane "waiting for numbers". It happens every day I fly. I've NEVER, NOT ONCE, waited for numbers to take off.

You really think central load planning is a viable alternative?
 

huncowboy

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You really think central load planning is a viable alternative?

It is. It is being used by many carriers.

Raw data goes into a w&b computer, results come back within a few seconds. If you have the full software V speeds transfer over. If not you have to manually enter those into the MCDU just like the results from the laptop. It greatly reduces heads down time for the FO during taxi. Big deal for runway incursions lately. Before getting disconnected from the tow we used to have all the stuff programmed. Effortless. It can be backed up with the laptop (not sure if that is still the case) or over the radio if it fails. It did fail once in a while but getting numbers over the radio was rarely a cause for delay. Very convenient. Definitely no way back once you get it. I hated how the laptop occupied the tray and the fiddling we had to do with it to stow it, make sure it was unplugged, etc. I can't stand that toughbook. It is nice to not have to update and carry the manuals, still I kind of prefer the binder to find stuff. And I am a computer enthusiast.
 

BeachBummer

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Well to each his own!

I like the ol'saying if you want it done right, do it yourself.



IMO, I can't believe this thread is still here.....
 
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