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JetBlue Open House in September

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Pilot Open House on Wednesday, September 19, at the Orlando Support Campus from 10:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m.

The Open House is a great opportunity for candidates to get a good taste of our culture. During their visit we showcase the campus with tours conducted by the Flt Ops Training Team. The Flt Ops and Training Leadership Team gather candidates in the Auditorium for an overview of the "JetBlue Pilot Job". Candidates also have an opportunity to meet with a Pilot Recruiter to review their resume and clarify questions or concerns.

 
Pilot Open House on Wednesday, September 19, at the Orlando Support Campus from 10:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m.

The Open House is a great opportunity for candidates to get a good taste of our culture. During their visit we showcase the campus with tours conducted by the Flt Ops Training Team. The Flt Ops and Training Leadership Team gather candidates in the Auditorium for an overview of the "JetBlue Pilot Job". Candidates also have an opportunity to meet with a Pilot Recruiter to review their resume and clarify questions or concerns.

Bring a broom, garbage bag and gloves since they are not included.:laugh:
 
Hmmm, a weapon, a method of disposal, and gloves to cover up the act. Are you coming to the open house? If so I'll be there instructortool.

I like the way you think.
Could this mean the end of Uppercrus.....er...I mean Instructordude?
 
Originally Posted by instructordude
"Bring a broom, garbage bag and gloves since they are not included.:laugh:"


Yawn ....
 
Go Jet MORON!

Bring a broom, garbage bag and gloves since they are not included.:laugh:


This guy is pure gold! Instructordude seems to have a gift for being quite the wordsmith. If this clown is for real (which I find unlikely,) then I think we can all feel sorry for anyone who may know him. Let's extend our sympathies to all his passengers, family, preacher, neighbors, mailman, wal-mart assoc., girl/boy friend and pretty much anyone else who ever comes in contact with this freakshow. This guy truly rolls everything we all love to despise into one little bundle of joy!

-Instructordude is reason enough that cousins shouldn't be allowed to marry!
 
I like the way you think.
Could this mean the end of Uppercrus.....er...I mean Instructordude?

I forgot about Uppercrust -- what happened to 32LT10?
 
I forgot about Uppercrust -- what happened to 32LT10?

He was sent for a weeks vacation at "trembling acres" for personal attacks and told to keep it clean. Then, he came back and couldn't control himself so he was sent away on permanent vacation. THEN, he paid the ten bucks to come back as "MRFLYER" so he could continue his B6 lovefest. He still couldn't contain himself and I believe he was sent away again. My guess he gets loose from his straight jacket now and again, only long enough to build a statue of Neelman out of his own feces.
But I digress.
 
If you're a regional Captain on an RJ, you need to seriously question a lateral move to Jetblue.
In most cases, you're going to take a hit on benefits and you're probably not going to do a whole lot better pay wise in the short-term. If you have apps out to UAL, CAL, SWA, Fedex, UPS, etc. - you're probably better off retaining the benefits you have now and waiting for a move up.
Be very careful about hanging yourself out to dry on health care. They're one of the worst in the industry and you could find yourself in a very expensive situation.
Jet time is jet time and if hiring is going to pick up soon. Better to make one move.
If you're an FO or you need some jet time, then go get some 190/320 time and move on.
Good luck.
 
If you're a regional Captain on an RJ, you need to seriously question a lateral move to Jetblue.
In most cases, you're going to take a hit on benefits and you're probably not going to do a whole lot better pay wise in the short-term. If you have apps out to UAL, CAL, SWA, Fedex, UPS, etc. - you're probably better off retaining the benefits you have now and waiting for a move up.
Be very careful about hanging yourself out to dry on health care. They're one of the worst in the industry and you could find yourself in a very expensive situation.
Jet time is jet time and if hiring is going to pick up soon. Better to make one move.
If you're an FO or you need some jet time, then go get some 190/320 time and move on.
Good luck.

As far as a lateral move, you obviously never flew for a regional. Cancer is a lateral move from a regional!

Make your own decisions for yourself. Not everyone chases the $ that comes with 10 hour flights to Europe, weekly overhauls of circadian rhythms, and a NASA-proven shorter life after retirement that comes with legacy and cargo flying. $150K is nothing to sneeze at for a domestic narrowbody Captain seat, but $250K has a physiological price. Southwest pilots only worry about long-term liver problems.

Besides, grass that is greener today might not be tomorrow. Ask an Eastern newhire back in 1988 if he was worried about job security. This line of work SUCKS, and you only know if you made the right decision on your 60th (soon 65th) birthday, or even after that if poor management at a legacy raped your retirement. Just get a job and make the most of it. Work hard to make your company the best it can be because this industry is unkind, unpredictable, and unlucky.
 
I did fly for a regional or two and my benefits and QOL were much better than they were at Jetblue.
A few of my friends found themselves in health-care hell when they went to Jetblue.
I moved on because the cost/benefit just wasn't there and the commute to JFK was agony.
For me, Jetblue was a good place to get some time but they have a long way to go before I would consider them a career major.
Job security? You have to be kidding?
Your crystal ball has Jetblue pilots safe and secure in twenty years?
Good luck with that one.
By all means apply. But keep all those other applications updated because I think the reality of Jetblue is much different than the brand they sell you.
Am I better off at CAL? I think so.
You don't have to.
 
I keep hearing CAL QOL sucks, how is commuting the EWR or Houston any easier than JFK. I think you have to wait 6 months for health care at CAL, talk about hell if something happens.
I suspect you jumped ship thinking CAL would be different and now you find its really not, except at CAL they work your ass off, you work every weekend, they are always undermanned, same ******************** different paint job dude.
 
Duuude...
the career numbers on pay and retirement aren't even close,
I'll be upgrading to a narrow body not an RJ,
my health premiums are half what they were at B6 with no $800 deductibles,
my coverage is greatly expanded,
I have a reliable set of work rules,
I breathed a huge sigh of relief when I secured a job with some RLA protections,
and I don't know if you've been to JFK lately but my commute and crashpad alternatives to IAH are half the commitment in time and money that New York was.
But that's just me.
 
Can we please stop the "My airline is better than yours crap"
 
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Duuude...
the career numbers on pay and retirement aren't even close,

depends on how old you are and when you upgrade/equipment

I'll be upgrading to a narrow body not an RJ,

[QUOTE]ya but when will you upgrade?, back to EWR on reserve if you want it soon. I say ten years with future orders and the age 65 thing.[/QUOTE]

my health premiums are half what they were at B6 with no $800 deductibles,

how much did you spend during the first six months for health care, or did you risk it?

my coverage is greatly expanded,

how is it greatly expanded, its another freaking HMO.

I have a reliable set of work rules,
ya, and you work like a dog and you get 11 days off per month.

I breathed a huge sigh of relief when I secured a job with some RLA protections,

Ask a US Air guy how that worked out for them, or United, Delta, or NWA

and I don't know if you've been to JFK lately but my commute and crashpad alternatives to IAH are half the commitment in time and money that New York was.

Ok, so you picked your job based on how cheap the crashpad was?

But that's just me.

Point is they are both marginal jobs with lots of unknowns, don't go high and mighty about CAL when everyone knows it just another legacy that pays like a LCC and work rules to boot.
 
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I don't work there, or want to spin anything. Just wondering why you think your "sheet" job is better than a B6 "sheet" job.

Seems to me you came here to justify to yourself that you made the right decision and leave the pot for the kettle.

So if anyone is spinning anything it was you, this was about the jetblue open house.
 
OK, earnings, QOL, and benefits aside - if that place suffers a few more major melt downs like the ones they seem to have nearly every month, they won't be able to fend of the sharks when the takeover is easy. JFK is gridlock.
And who knows what Neeleman or Soros plan to do with their shares now that David is on the outs. Maybe get back in with a new deal.
If I was a shareholder at $14 a share, I wouldn't mind making a buyout deal that might get me $20 a share. Especially if you're nervous about operational integrity and the soundness of the business plan in general.
So I suppose if you have confidence that you'll make it onto the seniority list of the acquiring airline with no union, no RLA, and no collective bargaining agreement -
then I guess it's a good move because you could end up flying a 757 at NWA, UAL, or DAL.
If you end up re-interviewing for your job, it will be billed as a colossal waste of time.
But I do agree with your position that these jobs are not what they used to be. Which is why we will see pressure from the supply side of the pilot pool soon - if we're not already.
It's crazy that if you were hired at NWA or UAL today, you would make less per hour than a pilot at Frontier. Nothing against Frontier, but it's a long way to fall.
Peace brother.
 
I am glad people that unhappy with JetBlue left. I wish they all would. I worked at CAL a long time ago, and I called my old boss to ask him to throw my reference letter away and do not call Flt Ops on my behalf. Good news is: QOL is on the up and up at CAL, their decision to simplify the fleet is great, and they have made very good decisions and will be a long term player. However...

Their 1st year pay is bull$hit. Why would you hire RJ and F16 drivers making $70K+ per year, give them a new job making only $25K, no healthcare for 6 months??? Say what you want about B6, but we would never treat our employees that way. That is awful, and a safety concern. Do you think that FO with financial problems and marital woes thanks to lack of $$$ is in the game on that approach to mins in SFO? Doubt it. That is no way to treat ANY employee. The $$$ is bad enough, but when COBRA costs $900 per month, that's half of your net pay!!! How do you pay your mortage? Buy food? Buy gas? At the very least, I am sure it makes very happy employees.
 
On the hiring note at Jet Blue, I have an SIC type rating on the EMB170/190 but only 3000TT with all the boxes checked!

Am I still not competitive at JetBlue????
 

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