Jetblue Lies About McCaskill-Bond Protections

[Splert]

It is the nature of the transaction that determines if the pilots (employees) (union or non union) are covered under McBond.

We have a better chance to be covered by McBond with a CBA that has the proper language to insure McBond is in fact triggered.

Not sure why that is so hard for pilots to understand.

 

[linepilot]

Just stick to the facts and you'll win. JetBlue management doesn't have a leg to stand on. But if you damage your own credibility, the wishy-washy pilots who can't make up their minds will think both you and management can't be trusted, and you won't get their votes. Bad strategy.

Win what? Ten years of fruitless negotiations with a bunch of lambs with no resolve?

The time to protect what we had was when we still had it. That time is over.

Why do I care about credibility? I'm a jetblew pilot. I have none.

And why does everyone assume that when someone points out a jetblew lie or calls out the morons who got us here, that they are on the OC or that they are ALPA boosters, or that they have a strategy?

This is reaping and sowing. Actions need reactions. Even if those reactions are visceral.

I don't need credibility for that. I don't need a strategy.

If we hide the fact that jetblew is a contrived cult, that jetblew is not an airline, it's a PR Machine and an ATM for a few sack lickers, then we cannot hope to drag it into the gutter that it belongs in.

The McBond process won't be used if jetblew pilots are involved in a TA without a union. It will be bypassed with trickery and ambiguity and backroom deals.

End of story.

I truly hope we get a chance to test my expert opinion. That opinion now reinforced by the decision from Judge Silver.

Your results may vary, but please enjoy! :laugh:

 

[Splert]

The McBond process won't be used if jetblew pilots are involved in a T[E]A without a union. It will be bypassed with trickery and ambiguity and backroom deals.

Agree 100%. We will be bought or acquired by Guadalupe Blue!

 

[pilotpayne]

Agree 100%. We will be bought or acquired by Guadalupe Blue!

Didn't they use Guadalupe to buy an ALPA carrier ie AirTran?
Since we have no union why would they need it if we follow your logic.

In the end we still need a cba

 

[Splert]

In order to not trigger McBond.

This issue is not union or non union. Each are covered by McBond IF and I say again IF the two conditions of McBond are met.

This is where jetblue mislead the pilot group a few years ago. They added an "or" between the two conditions where an "and" is in the statute.

 

[Splert]

http://www.jetbluefacts.com/2011/th...it-relates-specifically-to-the-amendment-are/

Second, in the event of any airline merger, or the purchase of 50% or more of the stock of one carrier by another (in other words, events your PEA calls ?Transactional Events?), seniority lists have to be integrated for all ?covered employees? in a ?fair and equitable manner.? Translation: if you?re a pilot, whether or not you have a CBA, your seniority integration process has to be fair.

AirTran proved Jetblue is full of it and can not be trusted to protect the pilot group .

 

[PCL_128]

AirTran was entirely covered by M-B. Our pilot group was just too cowardly to enforce it.

 

[Splert]

To enforce binding arbitration?

Or what, SWA would run AirTran separately and then out of existence!

 

[PCL_128]

To enforce binding arbitration?

Or what, SWA would run AirTran separately and then out of existence!

M-B, our CBA, the Process Agreement, and a side letter all prevented that.

 

[Fins Up]

Define Bargaining Agent.

Management can designate a BA only IF the employees have not certified a sole and exclusive BA though an NMB election.

I believe this is correct.

 

[Flyer1015]

Don't worry the B6/VX merger won't be too complicated with no unions on either side.

 

[dicko]

Management is going to negotiate my SLI?
Oh, I feel much better...

Worked out just fine at AirTran. Nothing to worry about.

 

[SpauldingSmails]

Duplicitous airline management teams!? Perish the thought at once!