JetBlue in full meltdown mode

[dicko]

That hasn't been the case for me

The contract has kicked in and I've gotten paid more-
I agree with igneousy

Wave,

How is the 2 hour extension decision being treated ? Is it a crew decision or does the Captains signature assume the FO is happy ? It appears that DAL is treating the two hour extension as automatic unless the Captain calls dispatch and refuses.

 

[doh]

http://www.alpa.org/portals/alpa/fastread/2011/FastReadNewsflash_20111223.htm cheat sheet?

 

[waveflyer]

2 hour extension?
Tell me how they couldn't extend you before?
Give me a real world example besides just regular old being late

 

[dicko]

2 hour extension?
Tell me how they couldn't extend you before?
Give me a real world example besides just regular old being late

I'm talking about the required PIC concurrence to an extension of up to 2 hours beyond the FDP.

I'm assuming that you understand 117, SWA real world procedures for dealing with it, and that the reply was for me.

 

[waveflyer]

I understand 117-
But clearly you guys are bringing up an issue I'm not seeing-
explain it to me like a 3rd grader if you could

 

[xray678]

Wave,

How is the 2 hour extension decision being treated ? Is it a crew decision or does the Captains signature assume the FO is happy ? It appears that DAL is treating the two hour extension as automatic unless the Captain calls dispatch and refuses.

Actually I think each crew member is responsible for contacting dispatch themselves.

 

[dicko]

I understand 117-
But clearly you guys are bringing up an issue I'm not seeing-
explain it to me like a 3rd grader if you could

It's not an issue. Maybe bringing up the question in this thread made it confusing. It's a straight up question with no trickery or underlying agenda -

117 requires PIC concurrence to extend the duty day by 2 hours. How is this extension handled between the Captain and F.O. ? What is the procedure if only one of the two pilots wants to extend the duty day by 2 hours ?

 

[waveflyer]

Good question- I don't know specifically unless the FO is fatigued-
In that case the fatigue policy applies and a capt can't make an FO fly

 

[Scoot 11]

I understand 117-
But clearly you guys are bringing up an issue I'm not seeing-
explain it to me like a 3rd grader if you could

Yeah, after all those are the ages of his girlfriends! And his highest level of education!

 

[waveflyer]

Not 3rd graders- and just one woman now- got to keep your jealousy in check scooter with your FI crush you got -
Just keep selling out RJs eventually you'll get those MD's and pesky domestic flying off the property