jetblue goes to....Cancun?

viking737

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I guess CUN will get even busier, it's already bad on the weekends.
 

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meanstreak said:
http://biz.yahoo.com/bizj/050923/1168689.html?.v=1


Delta has also applied for the same route (JFK-CUN). Someone told me the reason Airtran didn't get approved to fly MCO-CUN was because Delta has the rights to that route. Can anyone confirm or deny that. Delta doesn't fly that route direct yet!
No, the problem is the "US-Mexico Bilateral Agreement" which states that only two carriers can provide service on a specific route into and out of Mexico. In the case of MCO-CUN there are 3 carriers that have applied for that route. Airtran, Spirit and Delta. Since there are 3 applications the DOT has to do what is called a "carrier selection proceeding" to select the two carriers who will be awarded the route. All three airlines are trying to get the proceeding expedited at the moment. Before the busy winter season starts.

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AA already flies JFK-CUN.

Does that mean either Delta or Jet Blue will have their application turned down?
 

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viking737 said:
AA already flies JFK-CUN.

Does that mean either Delta or Jet Blue will have their application turned down?
Bingo.
 

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I think they should do an on-line poll in the NY/NJ area and let the public decide if they would rather ride JetBlue or Delta.
 

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MD80DRVR said:
I think they should do an on-line poll in the NY/NJ area and let the public decide if they would rather ride JetBlue or Delta.
Who applied 1st?

This will come down to political clout... something that JetBlue has plenty of!
 

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Three Airlines per city soon

DOT 133-05
Wednesday, September 21, 2005
Contact: Bill Mosley
Tel.: (202) 366-4570


U.S., Mexico Agree on Expanded Aviation Services

The United States and Mexico today agreed to allow expanded aviation services between their two countries, paving the way for more flights and lower fares on many routes in the third-largest U.S. international air market. Today’s action updates the U.S.-Mexico agreement for the first time since 1999.

“Easing restrictions on air services between our countries will allow our carriers to better meet demand in this large and fast-growing aviation market,” U.S. Transportation Secretary Norman Y. Mineta said. “We will continue to work with the Mexican government to liberalize our aviation agreement even further.”

Under the new agreement, three airlines from each country may fly between any U.S. city and any of 14 Mexican cities, including all the major resort destinations in Mexico: Acapulco, Cancun, Cozumel, Guadalajara, Huatulco, Ixtapa/Zihuatanejo, Loreto, Manzanillo, Mazatalan, Merida, Monterrey, Oaxaca, Puerto Vallarta and San Jose del Cabo. Previously, only two airlines from each country could operate on each U.S.-Mexico city-pair market.

Any number of scheduled all-cargo carriers may fly between the countries under the new agreement, and three all-cargo carriers may fly in each U.S.-Mexico city-pair market. The previous agreement allowed only five scheduled all-cargo carriers from each country, and only one from each country could operate between any U.S.-Mexico city pair except in a very limited number of markets.

The agreement adds a new provision for U.S. and Mexican carriers to enter into code-sharing arrangements with carriers from third countries for their U.S.-Mexico services. It also increases from four to ten the number of U.S. and Mexican carrier codes that may be carried in each city pair.

In addition, Washington and Baltimore are listed as separate points in the new agreement. This will allow additional airlines to fly between these cities and Mexico.

The agreement will take effect when signed in the near future.
 

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Two U.S. airlines already serve NYC-CUN -- American from JFK, and Continental from EWR.


So, the DOT still must pick between Delta and JetBlue to be the newly permitted third airline.
 

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EWR is in ...........

New Jersey.

Therefore....it probably isn't considered, technically, a New York airport. Although we all know that it is one of three large airports in the NYC metropolitan area. Just food for thought.
 

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J32driver said:
Who applied 1st?

This will come down to political clout... something that JetBlue has plenty of!
DL applied first...but only by a few days.

However, I expect that B6 will win the rights. The DOT tends to favor new entrants (DL already serves CUN via ATL/CVG/SLC) and carriers that will reduce fares. Using those criterion, B6 wins easily.
 

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MedFlyer said:
DL applied first...but only by a few days.

However, I expect that B6 will win the rights. The DOT tends to favor new entrants (DL already serves CUN via ATL/CVG/SLC) and carriers that will reduce fares. Using those criterion, B6 wins easily.
Here we have a large part of the problem. The government favors upstart carriers who provide a minimum income and virtually no retirement to their employees over carriers who have paid millions of dollars in taxes over decades to build the aviation infrastructure we have now.
 

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MedFlyer said:
DL applied first...but only by a few days.

However, I expect that B6 will win the rights. The DOT tends to favor new entrants (DL already serves CUN via ATL/CVG/SLC) and carriers that will reduce fares. Using those criterion, B6 wins easily.
Thanks Senator Clinton......


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
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