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active_herk

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Jetblue flyers:

I was curious about your employment contract. I understand it is for five years. During that time are you allowed to leave for another airline, or are you locked into Jetblue for the five years? Is the contract specifically designed to guarantee employment for five years? Thanks in advance for the information.
 
contract

its designed to keep you inline, if you make too much noise you're gone. Its much like UAL, USair, delta and NW contract, just a piece of paper.
 
Do a search. There is plent of information out there.
 
"its designed to keep you inline, if you make too much noise you're gone. Its much like UAL, USair, delta and NW contract, just a piece of paper."

Don't lie to the guy. It is nothing like a union contract. It is to protect JB and gives you no protection. It is a joke to say that.
 
really

just ask a UAL, USair, NW, Comair, TSA or Delta pilot if a union contract is more than a piece of paper. Those are the real jokes...
 
yes

you just agree not to go back to your previous job for 2 years. Why would you want to quit, you haven't even been hired yet?
 
flaps30 said:
you just agree not to go back to your previous job for 2 years. Why would you want to quit, you haven't even been hired yet?


Just a guess flaps but perhaps (s-h-r-e-e-k) JetBlue is not his first choice and he's wondering if he can take the JetBlue job till an opportunity with another company presents itself. Perhaps he doesn't want to clean the toilets between flights or he's not keen on transcon turns like so many JetBlue pilots? Perhaps he questions the long term viability of JetBlue? Perhaps he doesn't want to fly an RJ for poverty wages? Who knows?

BBB
 
Big Beer Belly said:
Just a guess flaps but perhaps (s-h-r-e-e-k) JetBlue is not his first choice and he's wondering if he can take the JetBlue job till an opportunity with another company presents itself. Perhaps he doesn't want to clean the toilets between flights or he's not keen on transcon turns like so many JetBlue pilots? Perhaps he questions the long term viability of JetBlue? Perhaps he doesn't want to fly an RJ for poverty wages? Who knows?

BBB


anybody know the status of the transcon turns? heard a rumor that it actually MIGHT happen!
 
active_herk said:
Jetblue flyers:

I was curious about your employment contract. I understand it is for five years. During that time are you allowed to leave for another airline, or are you locked into Jetblue for the five years? Is the contract specifically designed to guarantee employment for five years? Thanks in advance for the information.

Fair Question.

I believe it says you can't go back to your previous Pt 121 carrier for 2 years, or repay the training costs.

Everything else is standard stuff seen in many corporate flight dept. agreements. Nothing magical.

There is a blurb about an agreement to pay you during the 5 years if you are furloughed.

I signed mine, filed it away and haven't thought much about it except when questions arise here.
 
Why I'm asking....

I'm a FedEx pilot and have a bud who I want to help get on at FedEx. He got offered a position at JetBlue, and I wasn't sure if he would be able to leave JetBlue to go to FedEx within the five years (assuming he would want to). Thats it, no other hidden motive here. Thanks for the info.
 
active_herk said:
Why I'm asking....

I'm a FedEx pilot and have a bud who I want to help get on at FedEx. He got offered a position at JetBlue, and I wasn't sure if he would be able to leave JetBlue to go to FedEx within the five years (assuming he would want to). Thats it, no other hidden motive here. Thanks for the info.

Why would he want to do that??
 
I wasn't saying he definitely would. I just want to know if I would be able to help him out if he did want to. Or if he would be locked into JetBlue. It is nice to know you have options, and what they are before making any decision.
 
It only applies if you go back to your most recent carrier, NOT a new one.
I just had two new guys leave my crashpad that weren't even at our airline for one year. One for Fedex, and one for UPS. They got to cash in their stock options ($25,000 for 6 months of work), and leave with no problems. Actually, they were very surprised at how friendly and supportive the chief pilots were when they wished them good luck in the future with a handshake and a smile!
Typical JetBlue great leadership!
 
seahorse said:
Is there a provision in the contract where they can fire you if you stop cleaning the airplane and lav?

Yup...

If you ever miss a cleaning ... you're gone. No questions asked.
 
The B6 "agreement" differs from other airline "contracts" in a few ways..........

You don't continuously negotiate paycuts every few months in order to keep your carrier from inevitable bankruptcy. You actually get raises each year. Your "agreement" is not dangled in front of a judge with the threat of being tossed out the window unless you agree to give your top executives more bonuses so they don't have to defer on their yacht payments. Your long term viability is in no more danger than any other passenger carrier in today's world.........that is unless your carrier is already in chapter 11. The only RJ's you'll be flying on are the ones you'd commute to work on which are being farmed out to lower paying "regional" carriers who believe it's okay to pay their pilots dirt to do the same job as their "major" counterparts. You don't have to worry about hiding from passengers who complain about not getting a snack, movie, or a second helping of that shot glass of soda on flights less than 2 hours........especially when they paid extra for that aisle seat, which is the same one where your elbow gets slammed by oncoming galley carts. The only toilets you'll be cleaning are the ones in your own home, which are also attached to the same plumbing used by other top airline executives to flush away their employees pensions and "contracts." So you may actually go to work with a smile on your face. And beware...........when passengers get off of a B6 aircraft, they tend to smile and thank the crews for their hospitality. Oh, and don't be frightened if you see B6 executives interacting with their own employees and passengers instead of hiding out in offices afraid to face the real world.
 
You can talk all the sheet you want to, but the bottom line is that your pay rates suck a.ss, you have no retirment program, and no union.
 
seahorse said:
You can talk all the sheet you want to, but the bottom line is that your pay rates suck a.ss, you have no retirment program, and no union.

Yeah, you're right. Paid more than most other majors in the first year (including the 190). That 401K must be something else. Those unions really kick serious a** nowadays.

Live by the sword. Die by the sword.

SCR
 
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401K is not a retirement plan

B737-800 at CAL, pays $100/hr as an FO at 6th year with 12.75% B-Fund retirement too. That's 12.75% that I don't have to take out of my pay like you would for a 401K.

So after you take out your 401K money from your $73 per hour, you make like $60 - 65 per hour to fly the Airbus. Then you clean the airplane for free too.
 

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