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JetBlue continuing expansion plan,looking overseas
Tue Mar 2, 2004 01:32 PM ET
By Jui Chakravorty
NEW YORK, March 2 (Reuters) - Low-cost carrier JetBlue Airways Corp. (JBLU.O: Quote, Profile, Research) on Tuesday said it plans to expand its fleet by more than five times its current size in the next few years and extend its route network to overseas destinations.

"We are looking at various Caribbean locations. Our product performs very well long-haul, and the Caribbean is a very big market out of New York," JetBlue Chief Financial Officer John Owen said at an airline conference here.

Despite the airline's positive attitude -- it reiterated its operating margin forecast of 9 to 11 percent for the first quarter -- JetBlue shares were off nearly 4 percent at midday.

"The entire airline sector is down today ... after recent gains, it's nothing to worry about," said Ray Neidl, analyst at Blaylock & Partners. "High fuel prices, uncertainty with fares and yields are making the market very indecisive," he said.

The New York-based airline, which added six planes in its fourth quarter of last year and plans to add 16 this year, said it has 100 EMBRAER 190 aircraft on order and will start taking deliveries in mid-2005.

"We will use the EMBRAER's, which are slightly smaller than our current jets, to penetrate smaller markets," Owen said.

JetBlue will also use the smaller jets to fly during off-peak seasons to highly seasonal markets such as Daytona Beach, Florida. "That way we can stay profitable throughout the year," Owen said.

He also said JetBlue, which carries more passengers through New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport than any other airline, is in the midst of talks with the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey to build new terminals and expand further at that airport.

The 4-year-old airline, which a month ago requested 10 slots at La Guardia Airport in New York to begin service there this spring, said it will never be "terribly large" at La Guardia. "It's only a token presence," Owen said.

The airline said advance bookings for its new non-stop service between Sacramento and New York are well in excess of expectations, and there are plans to add non-stop service between San Antonio and New York soon.

"The expansion is good, as long as they can keep controlling their cost," said Neidl. "Adding to the fleet will increase their cost, but it will increase their revenue more."

As JetBlue, known for having leather seats and live television on its airplanes, fights for market share by offering lower fares while increasing amenities, it recently partnered with News Corp. (NCP.AX: Quote, Profile, Research) , which owns the Fox broadcast network and 20th Century Fox movie studios, to provide pay-per-view movie programming on its planes.

"We also hope to roll out a system in our second quarter where you can print boarding passes at home," Owen said.

JetBlue shares were down $1.01, or 3.95 percent at $24.56 on the New York Stock Exchange.
 
Good Luck JB !!! :D

And I mean it....Don't listen to the haters, They are just jealous...

Later..
 
>> What's that I smell? O-ya, It's over expansion

Just like Wal-Mart, Dell, Starbucks, Microsoft & Home Depot!

JetBlue has to earn customers gratitude every flight, and the expansion plans are aggresive, but there is nothing in the business model that says 50 planes is right and 300 is wrong.

Maybe it's something else you smell?
 
nhbizz, doesn't sound like overexpansion to me. Seems like everybody is adding flights to the Caribbean, and doing that from New York makes a lot of sense. If they were actually going "overseas" - to me that means getting as far as Japan or London - they are going to need some bigger planes. Flying out of La Guardia like they are going to do is fun. I think that is one of the coolest airports to fly to with VFR conditions. Getting out can be a challenge - with the same weather, it may take you 5 minutes or 1 hour to get to the runway and you never really figured out why.
 
It would just seem to me that most successes in the LCC arena in the last 20 years, have come from carriers that have perfected thier game plan. I applaude a bold move like this from JB. I just think they may be suprised at the fight they get from the Legacy Carriers. Maybe, all the cherry picked routes have been used up?
 
Would somebody please tell me another city, besides their own home city or hub, that Airtran, Jetblue and ATA will choose as their next hub or "focus city" that will have a major presence for them. (leave out BWI for Airtran, and LGB and BOS for Jetblue) Just give me your best guesses---really--I would like to know.....No flames here--just wanting for somebody at one of those airlines to come up with something FRESH......Give me a city and tell me how and what you guys would do---and I am not a part of Delta Marketing or management.


Bye Bye---General Lee:rolleyes:
 
general

Good bait question.:D

Actually, with all the excess capacity in the system and gates tied up as they are, I doubt you are going to see focus/hubs for any of the three until there is a shakeout. B6 is in the most tenuous position with 30 a/c per year coming on board in 2006, but my guess is there will have been a shakeout by then.
 
General Lee said:
Would somebody please tell me another city, besides their own home city or hub, that Airtran, Jetblue and ATA will choose as their next hub or "focus city" that will have a major presence for them. (leave out BWI for Airtran, and LGB and BOS for Jetblue) Just give me your best guesses---really--I would like to know.....No flames here--just wanting for somebody at one of those airlines to come up with something FRESH......Give me a city and tell me how and what you guys would do---and I am not a part of Delta Marketing or management.


Bye Bye---General Lee:rolleyes:

Someone is going to take IAD from UAL. Who that will be is anyones guess. With the loss of the ACA feed UAL is at a real loss in IAD. B6, Independence Air?

USAir is going to lose PHL. You pick who gets the market share.

PIT for Airtran?

STL for LUV? TWA made a living out of STL for years. AA keeps cutting back. Isn't luv building a new terminal at ISP?

What about Orlando for JetBlue? Aren't they building their training center there? Plenty of room to build maintenance facilities.

My personal untapped favorites. Albany NY, Providence RI, Bedford MA. and Hartford CT. Anyone of these could support the expansion of an LCC. Sure some of these have existing LCC service but a large percentage of the surrounding community is still is willing to travel to LGA, JFK or BOS for travel. Just look at ISP, unless you live within 10 minutes of JFK, most of the folks I talk to would rather travel out of ISP VS LGA or JFK. Does this hurt JetBLue or AA, No

A $99 fare out of your back yard just opens up FL to more folks.
 
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I'd say Dallas for AirTran. According to management PIT is one of most expansive airports in the country to operate out of, and they aren't looking to do anything there unless that changes.
 
Re: general

lowecur said:
Good bait question.:D

Actually, with all the excess capacity in the system and gates tied up as they are, I doubt you are going to see focus/hubs for any of the three until there is a shakeout. B6 is in the most tenuous position with 30 a/c per year coming on board in 2006, but my guess is there will have been a shakeout by then.

This sounds like The Great Fare War of '05 or '06.

SWA is getting a 40 net increase in jets per year starting '04 for at least three years. Airtran has 6 737's coming in June? then at least one a month. Now Jetblue with the Embraers in '06, which the press continues to call regional jets. I hate to say it but JetBlue may have the best schedule for expansion. Boy those guys have eyes in the back of their heads.

The aviation week article did say the honeymoon period for expansion is just about over. It will be followed by a perion of mergers or consolidation. History does indicate there are periods of merger activity, is the next one in late '04 or early '05? Do they have to be preceded by very profitable times or is a period of excess capacity and near profitability the trigger? I suspect the latter.

Expansion plans being executed now will run into a little trouble for the rest of '04, IMHO. I personally think the revenue has started to level off rather than continue the upward climb as was predicted last year. The level off may be temporary, but will still have a negative affect. Just call me Ms. Cleo.
 
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General,

Here is some light on what our "Focus" will be--


Form 8-K for ATA HOLDINGS CORP
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24-Feb-2004
Regulation FD Disclosure

ITEM 9. REGULATION FD DISCLOSURE.
In recent press interviews, ATA Holdings Corp., the parent company of ATA Airlines Inc. (the "Company"), has disclosed that it believes that profitable opportunities may exist for low-cost carriers to serve the transatlantic market. The Company is currently evaluating capacity and demand in several transatlantic markets. The Company will consider beginning limited European service no earlier than Summer 2005 or Summer 2006. The actual commencement will depend on market conditions at that time. Currently the Company does not have a European code-share partner, but intends to explore entering into such an arrangement. In 2003, approximately 20 percent of the Company's capacity was dedicated to international flying, much of which was service to the U.S. military. The Company has recently announced that it may increase its Mexico and Caribbean schedule in 2004.
 
It may be that the LCC's don't need to start hubs/focus cities in "empty" airports. I've believed for a long time that the LCC's will take their market share from the network carriers.

B6 is going to directly challenge AA in the NYC-Carribean market. If AA fails to stop them, B6 will boldly go into other "hostile" territory.

It will be interesting.TC
 
AA717driver,

I guess there is only one more way for Jetblue to go from JFK---Down----South to the Carribean that is....I guess there would be plenty of new islands they could go to--like Barbados and Antigua etc...but they tend to use the aircraft for a long period through out the day---and they might not get too many rotations with each new aircraft, unless they do allnighters to the Carribean too. (besides SJU) I guess they could still hit some more cities out West too---PHX, ABQ, and more to DEN or SEA etc...But I can't think of a new B6 "focus city" that will be large enough to really call a "hub."

Airtran's move into DFW could be interesting. Yes, they have started already---with LAS, BWI and BOS eventually. That is a good start, but I think American will pour on the extra competition--and I don't know how that will affect Airtran. I think I read an article recently stating that AA wanted to add 150 more flights a day from DFW by 2007 since they got most of the new gates at the new terminal.

Flyboeingjets,

Your European expansion will be on routes that are nonexisting at the Majors, like from MCO to places in Europe. (according to that last article) You may get a codeshare partner, which would be important because you don't want to invest in local people and gates etc...which adds a lot to the start up costs. We inherrited a lot from our Pan Am aquisition---and still have plenty of their local people working for us all over Europe--without having to go out and hire new ones that have no experience or buy new gates etc.... You guys also aren't getting nearly as many planes this year as once thought, so you don't have to figure out where to put them. Buying NAA might be interesting though.

G4G5,

I used to fly a lot into ISP when I was at Delta Express, and there really wasn't a very good infrastructure there. The main terminal was old, and Southwest had to build their own little terminal in the corner to expand at all. Flying in there was interesting, and the airport was small in size and I doubt anyone could really expand there as a hub. When the weather was down--the place was shut down as I remember.

As far as Airtran going to PIT---that might work of those airport costs were brought down. If USAir does tank, then PIT airport will have to do that. Didn't I read that "ROAM" airlines also plans to start up there? Who knows? They have a great facility there.


Lowecur,

Not a "bait" question, just a good "discussion" question. I would really like to know where these LCCs plan to go--with most of the airports full to capacity. That could change if one or two majors tank--and that will probably be where they go....

Bye Bye---General Lee:rolleyes:
 
General,

Rumor on the street is for JB to announce 2 additional Carribean destinations this year. My bet is one will probably be Bermuda.


AA717,

In our minds we've already challenged AA by going into SJU and it's been enormously successful and profitable for us. To the extent we've added a fourth flight. I wouldn't speculate on what affect that has had on AA though.

But then again, I'm just a line pilot. So what do I know?

Happy landings
 
Jointops,

I think that may be smart--but they will have competition from NYC form USAir(LGA), AA (JFK) and CO (EWR). I have flown in there on the 767-300 in the Summertime and it is a beautiful place(kinda windy though in the Winter)---and we fly there from BOS and ATL. (Never overnighted there, though--always a thru flight BOS-BDA-ATL or the other way around).

Delta will be adding two Mainline (not Song) flights each day from JFK to San Juan and Santo Domingo---so we are getting in the game also. If you want to keep business travellers, you have to offer them nice places to go on their vacation time--to bring the family. That is why we have to offer more sunny destinations from places like New York.....

Bye Bye--General Lee:cool:
 
Fly-By-Cable said:
I'd say Dallas for AirTran. According to management PIT is one of most expansive airports in the country to operate out of, and they aren't looking to do anything there unless that changes.

DFW will be a hard sale. From this weeks Star Telegram

The world's largest airline and one of the world's busiest airports
inked the proposal last month, and airport officials disclosed details of the deal Wednesday. It calls for American to take over 19 of the 28 gates in Terminal D, which is scheduled to open in summer 2005. The airline also promises to increase its D/FW departures by 21 percent by 2007.
 
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