JetBlue 2Q Earnings

[pilotpayne]

absolutely

I hope you will be very happy.
The best thing about all the hiring coming up is people will be
able to go where they want.

 

[oldxfr8dog]

I hope you will be very happy.
The best thing about all the hiring coming up is people will be
able to go where they want.

Pilotpayne, why are you satisfied with the bottom of the barrel?
Please tell me that you have your apps out.
Don't waste 11 years here, as I have.
I believed a lot of their "stuff", back then. You have their track record.
Analyze.


Edit: On second thought, If this is a stepping stone for you, go for it.

 

[coogebeachhotel]

Alaska 2nd quarter revenue...... $1.256 billion with a $105 million dollar profit

JetBlue 2nd quarter revenue.......$1.34 billion and a $36 million dollar profit

Alaska has near monopolies on many routes, has a business class, and does not have the 190, is not building a lodge, is not building a new terminal, and has no start up costs for new cities.

It does have ALPA and it does have an excellent pilot contract.

AND REMEMBER DO NOT FALL FOR THE TRAP. COMPARE W2 to W2. NOT HOURLY.

 

[pilotpayne]

Pilotpayne, why are you satisfied with the bottom of the barrel?
Please tell me that you have your apps out.
Don't waste 11 years here, as I have.
I believed a lot of their "stuff", back then. You have their track record.
Analyze.


Edit: On second thought, If this is a stepping stone for you, go for it.

Go for what?

Did you read the part about me sending in a card a being a yes vote?
Maybe you looked over that so you could make a false argument as so many do.
I am sorry you wasted 11 years here must be pretty bad at the 1/3 of the list....spare me....captain.

 

[N311HK]

We can lie to ourselves all we want. We re the B team, JV. From management to dispatchers. Top to bottom. We can't operate a flight on time. We buy a school house, Delta buys a refinery. US Air & AA merge, we open a new city and put one flight a day, a redeye at that. We can't even get our uniforms correct. I have no faith in the management to run a tight, profitable airline. And clearly Wall St thinks the same. Even if we get a union we've been taken just missing out this year is huge overall $$$

-Attitude reflects leadership

 

[oldxfr8dog]

Go for what?

Did you read the part about me sending in a card a being a yes vote?
Maybe you looked over that so you could make a false argument as so many do.
I am sorry you wasted 11 years here must be pretty bad at the 1/3 of the list....spare me....captain.

Go for the money and benefits that a true major can provide.

I'm right there with you regarding the card. However, if we voted ALPA in this afternoon it's going to be a long contentious negociation The company has already admitted that they won't bargain in good faith. Why start farther behind the curve than you are now?

I don't really consider it wasted, it was the only game in town back then and the majors are just now getting back in hiring mode. My career is shot, only a few years left or I'd be down the road. Actively looking for a good corp gig near home, though.
I'm a good bit higher than 1/3 up the list. Unfortunately, I'm not even half-way up the list at my senior base. I get all the 11+30 3-days I want. Red-eyes at that.
Don't be emotional. JB is just another company
. Exactly what is your big attachment here? Pizza?

 

[coogebeachhotel]

Perhaps management is "prepping the battlefield" in anticipation of a union on property in the near future.
Either elimanate items from contract ASAP now or be required to negotiate these items later in a give/take situation.

 

[oldxfr8dog]

Perhaps management is "prepping the battlefield" in anticipation of a union on property in the near future.
Either elimanate items from contract ASAP now or be required to negotiate these items later in a give/take situation.

That's my guess.

 

[pilotpayne]

Go for the money and benefits that a true major can provide.

I'm right there with you regarding the card. However, if we voted ALPA in this afternoon it's going to be a long contentious negociation The company has already admitted that they won't bargain in good faith. Why start farther behind the curve than you are now?

I don't really consider it wasted, it was the only game in town back then and the majors are just now getting back in hiring mode. My career is shot, only a few years left or I'd be down the road. Actively looking for a good corp gig near home, though.
I'm a good bit higher than 1/3 up the list. Unfortunately, I'm not even half-way up the list at my senior base. I get all the 11+30 3-days I want. Red-eyes at that.
Don't be emotional. JB is just another company
. Exactly what is your big attachment here? Pizza?

Yes it's the pizza....

 

[coogebeachhotel]

Premium will be going away. It is cooked. Straight pay. That's right. The RUMORED raise will be a wash.
New FARs will make high time impossible(DHs count etc. etc.)
Healthcare cost is the mystery number.
W2s next year will be affected.

 

[N311HK]

http://beta.fool.com/maholder/2013/08/02/one-airline-to-avoid/42292/?source=eogyholnk0000001

The numbers never lie

 

[Ski-N-Fly]

Go for the money and benefits that a true major can provide.

I'm right there with you regarding the card. However, if we voted ALPA in this afternoon it's going to be a long contentious negociation The company has already admitted that they won't bargain in good faith. Why start farther behind the curve than you are now?

I don't really consider it wasted, it was the only game in town back then and the majors are just now getting back in hiring mode. My career is shot, only a few years left or I'd be down the road. Actively looking for a good corp gig near home, though.
I'm a good bit higher than 1/3 up the list. Unfortunately, I'm not even half-way up the list at my senior base. I get all the 11+30 3-days I want. Red-eyes at that.
Don't be emotional. JB is just another company
. Exactly what is your big attachment here? Pizza?

If and when we vote in a union, negotiations may not take as long as you think. In order to attract and retain pilots, the company will be forced to get a deal done as soon as possible. Also, I predict that when a pilot union comes onto the property, say good bye to our current ELT.......and good riddance. For the first time in the company's history, the ELT will be held accountable by someone besides the major share holders. And at this point, the major share holders must be questioning some of the major f**k ups......um......decisions by the current ELT.

Send in a card. Tell your friends to send in a card.

 

[bluesideup340]

. And at this point, the major share holders must be questioning some of the major f**k ups......um......decisions by the current ELT.

Be careful what you wish for. It might came true.
Shareholders may actually demand a return on their investment. To achieve this the new ELT will stop the growth and drive efficiencies. Make no mistake they will not be looking to give pilots pay raises or improve your Quality of Life.

 

[Fins Up]

.....I'm right there with you regarding the card. However, if we voted ALPA in this afternoon it's going to be a long contentious negociation The company has already admitted that they won't bargain in good faith. Why start farther behind the curve than you are now?

Pleeeeaaase don't allow this can to be kicked down the road. Management will use any excuse available, 3A or otherwisex to put off giving any pay raise. Plus, we have been waiting years already for inprovements that would put us in the ballpark of "industry standard". What do we have to show for it? Substandard pay, vacation/sick time, retirement, and insurance. Please do not play their game. We need to vote in favor of a CBA and get to work on it NOW, before this ship is sunk or sold.

Glad you sent in a card. Carry extra cards with you (envelopes and stamps if you're really motivated) and get your fellow pilots to send them in as well.

 

[coogebeachhotel]

Be careful what you wish for. It might came true.
Shareholders may actually demand a return on their investment. To achieve this the new ELT will stop the growth and drive efficiencies. Make no mistake they will not be looking to give pilots pay raises or improve your Quality of Life.

Huh? Contradiction.

 

[oldxfr8dog]

Pleeeeaaase don't allow this can to be kicked down the road. Management will use any excuse available, 3A or otherwisex to put off giving any pay raise. Plus, we have been waiting years already for inprovements that would put us in the ballpark of "industry standard". What do we have to show for it? Substandard pay, vacation/sick time, retirement, and insurance. Please do not play their game. We need to vote in favor of a CBA and get to work on it NOW, before this ship is sunk or sold.

Glad you sent in a card. Carry extra cards with you (envelopes and stamps if you're really motivated) and get your fellow pilots to send them in as well.

Please don't misunderstand. I gave money to the JBPA drive, was on the OC for the 1st alpa drive, and my card is in. We needed a CBA a long time ago. I just didn't want the poster to think it was going to be an overnight improvement. If I had only been a short time like him or her I'd be sending out apps.

 

[Ski-N-Fly]

Be careful what you wish for. It might came true.
Shareholders may actually demand a return on their investment. To achieve this the new ELT will stop the growth and drive efficiencies. Make no mistake they will not be looking to give pilots pay raises or improve your Quality of Life.

Which is exactly why we need proper representation.

"In business, you don't get what you deserve. You get what you negotiate."

 

[Splert]

Be careful what you wish for. It might came true.
Shareholders may actually demand a return on their investment. To achieve this the new ELT will stop the growth and drive efficiencies. Make no mistake they will not be looking to give pilots pay raises or improve your Quality of Life.

Welcome to 2 years sgo! The new ELT is already here.

 

[bluesideup340]

Welcome to 2 years sgo! The new ELT is already here.

You are right the shareholders get great returns and we have not grown at all.

 

[Splert]

Who owns the debt, leases both capital and operational and who have employee take backs gone too.

Which ELT has arranged all of this?