Jet Blue Pilot Contract

[Whiskerbizkit]

I see JB has a 5 year personal contract with each pilot. What happens after 5 years? Is this a way to keep labor pay down?

 

[IB6 UB9]

After 5 years you have the option of leaving the company or staying on board. If you stay on board you begin as a new-hire again, as a First Officer at first year pay. So yes, it is how we keep costs down. There is a five year pay scale published...because that is all that is needed. It sucks, but hey, we'll work for free if we have to.

 

[Mr Zog]

After 5 years you have the option of leaving the company or staying on board. If you stay on board you begin as a new-hire again, as a First Officer at first year pay. So yes, it is how we keep costs down. There is a five year pay scale published...because that is all that is needed. It sucks, but hey, we'll work for free if we have to.

I thought you guys also had to reapply and go through the interview process again after the five year contract.

After seeing the post about cockpit cleaning I figured it was only a matter of days before we saw the 5-year contract in a post. It is like the FedEx post, and "What is the quality of life like at FedEx? Where do you fly?"

 

[wndshr]

my next door neighbor's contract just ran out...he is now back at new hire pay and the right seat!!! no problem..he will upgrade again in another 2 1/2 years.

he sure loves working there and feels like he is making a real difference in changing the typical airline experience for many passengers!

in fact...he and many of his colleagues have an auto pay withdrawal that is set up to buy a dedicated A320 in honor of David and Dave! that is what I call respect!!!

 

[NewBlue]

After 5 years you have the option of leaving the company or staying on board. If you stay on board you begin as a new-hire again, as a First Officer at first year pay. So yes, it is how we keep costs down. There is a five year pay scale published...because that is all that is needed. It sucks, but hey, we'll work for free if we have to.

Go ahead. Give them more misinformation.

Of course, this could be fun to watch.

 

[JungleJetCA]

I see JB has a 5 year personal contract with each pilot. What happens after 5 years? Is this a way to keep labor pay down?

Dude, have you ever heard of the 5 minute rule?

 

[B747FR8DAWG]

Work For Free???

After 5 years you have the option of leaving the company or staying on board. If you stay on board you begin as a new-hire again, as a First Officer at first year pay. So yes, it is how we keep costs down. There is a five year pay scale published...because that is all that is needed. It sucks, but hey, we'll work for free if we have to.

What did they put in the Kool-Aid at JetBlue

 

[Dogwood]

What did they put in the Kool-Aid at JetBlue

It's funny you say that. During the wait in the "Safe Room" prior to the interview, one of the execs, talks about drinking the Kool Aid. I think he said that happens on day 3 of indoc.

Naturally he was kidding, but his point was, trust us, learn to do it our way and we'll all have a pretty good job to retire from. They also admit that the airlines have changed and so has the career as an airline pilot. It's not quite as cushy as it used to be, but neither is a doctor.

The contract we signed is pretty plain vanilla, anyway.

 

[B747FR8DAWG]

Dogwood,


Thanks for the reply, I was just trying to make sense of the comment posted by your co-worker, working for free is a bold statement!

 

[klhoard]

. . .<snip>. . .trust us, learn to do it our way . . . <snip>. . .the airlines have changed and so has the career as an airline pilot. It's not quite as cushy as it used to be, . . . <snip>. . . .

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Is this the same "safe room" that Michael Jackson has at Neverland??
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[RJones]

Naturally he was kidding, but his point was, trust us, learn to do it our way and we'll all have a pretty good job to retire from.

How is that. If you have to keep going back to first year pay that means you have to re-think your controbution to the 401k every five years.

The contract we signed is pretty plain vanilla, anyway.

Did you have your attorney look at it? Been in these situations where they throw a contract in front of you without being able to consult with an attorney ... not for me, and that's what it sound like they do.

Just my two cents. RJ

 

[HalinTexas]

After 5 years you have the option of leaving the company or staying on board. If you stay on board you begin as a new-hire again, as a First Officer at first year pay. So yes, it is how we keep costs down. There is a five year pay scale published...because that is all that is needed. It sucks, but hey, we'll work for free if we have to.

I keep waiting for someone to really yank that chain around my leg. OK, so what really happens?

 

[Dave Siegel]

I keep waiting for someone to really yank that chain around my leg. OK, so what really happens?

If you're not "Smurfy" enough after five years, then Papa Smurf sends you on your merry way.

Nice concept. It's the same concept that Emirate Air uses. You Smurfs are in for a reality check as soon as the five year point hits. If you're still working there after five years, it's only because you have your little Smurf nose wedged up Papa's can.

 

[HalinTexas]

How many have been terminated? Is it poor performance or poor attitude?
You don't really start over, right?
It's just a review, not a "nose color" check?

 

[Eagleflip]

Reality check:

Zero.
Doesn't happen, so attitude doesn't matter.
No.
It automatically renews.

Sorry for the good news. This is a very deceased horse!

EF

 

[DIAMONDDD]

The word on the street is that about 70 percent of those guys that are coming due on their contract are being terminated. Of those terminated, about 30 percent are terminated due to not passing the re-hire interview and the rest are terminated because they can't pass the re-hire company physical.

The ones that are actually re-hired go to year one pay as first officers. The moral of the story is to save enough money while you are in the left seat to tide you over for the upcoming re-hire pay. Also, stay in peak physical condition and keep your nose clean before the re-hire process. It's pretty simple actually.

 

[Eagleflip]

(heavy sigh...)


OK, you're all right. There is an astoundingly low percentage of those rehired at the 5 year point. Almost zippo. Close to zilch. JB just about starts over every five years with a clean slate. How does it decide on who stays?

The company evaluates how much gas you've burned, your total percentage of body hair (excluding shoulder hair long enough to be braided, which is considered to be a manly trait), width of nose in relation to your forehead, and then divides that by the inverse of the number of wives you've had. And voila...

Then they decide on if you stay!

OM Lawd....how do these threads get started?

 

[filejw]

The funny thing is some people on this forum don't get the sarcasm..........LOL

 

[Smoking Man]

I just reviewed my copy of the contract, I was unable to find the body hair clause. I just hope this in not that major of a factor in 5 years.

My copy included a needle so you can sign in blood.

 

[Eagleflip]

Oh yeah...sarcasm....

I get it! (albeit rather slowly, but I get it!)