Jet Blue benefits, healthcare cost?

[BentOver]

Who cares? It's just a matter of time. Thanks to Barry Obama, we'll all be standing in lines outside our local hospitals praying that at least one bed is left unoccupied. JB won't subidize you as their healthcare costs escalate - it will just be easier to pay the fine and let everyone roll-off onto the Government list (watch out for the DEATH PANELS!). There won't be any more waivers (like the one McDonalds and Boeing just got) left. But at least Obama supports the unions....

Have fun with that...

Don't know about you, but under Obama I've gotten 2 very good jobs during and after the recession.

Under the last president I lost 2 jobs.... Oh and the economy went in the absolute tank...

Never understood why most pilots are die hard against Obama/ democrats? Seems the airline industry typically does better under democrats...

Bush I....gulf war, furloughs, no jobs, needed thousands of hours just to get into a puddle jumping regional.

Clinton..... Lots of mainline hiring, no furloughs?,

Bush II....need I say more?

Obama..... Slowly coming back..for me it's been outstanding.

I don't talk or care about politics, but just looking at recent 25 yr history tells me the airline industry works better with a democrat in office.... Just an observation

 

[CapnVegetto]

Don't know about you, but under Obama I've gotten 2 very good jobs during and after the recession.

Under the last president I lost 2 jobs.... Oh and the economy went in the absolute tank...

Never understood why most pilots are die hard against Obama/ democrats? Seems the airline industry typically does better under democrats...

Bush I....gulf war, furloughs, no jobs, needed thousands of hours just to get into a puddle jumping regional.

Clinton..... Lots of mainline hiring, no furloughs?,

Bush II....need I say more?

Obama..... Slowly coming back..for me it's been outstanding.

I don't talk or care about politics, but just looking at recent 25 yr history tells me the airline industry works better with a democrat in office.... Just an observation

Did it occur to you that effects of policies generally lag about a term behind a president?

Example, assume a republican wins in 2016. Are you going to blame him for the horrendous detrimental effects of Obamacare, which will most likely be felt in full effect by then? On the other hand, in the unlikely event that Obamacare turns out to be a panacea, and THOSE effects are felt in 2017, does said republican candidate get the credit?

Oh, and let's not forget that in the Clinton years, he had a Republican Congress.

 

[Smarta$$]

Did it occur to you that effects of policies generally lag about a term behind a president?

Example, assume a republican wins in 2016. Are you going to blame him for the horrendous detrimental effects of Obamacare, which will most likely be felt in full effect by then? On the other hand, in the unlikely event that Obamacare turns out to be a panacea, and THOSE effects are felt in 2017, does said republican candidate get the credit?

Oh, and let's not forget that in the Clinton years, he had a Republican Congress.

Typical. Everything that happens good during a democrat president is left over republican policies. Everything that happens bad during a democrat president is is his fault... Balance dude, find even just a small amount.

 

[CapnVegetto]

Typical. Everything that happens good during a democrat president is left over republican policies. Everything that happens bad during a democrat president is is his fault... Balance dude, find even just a small amount.

Oh yeah, libs are REAL balanced. You're NEVER biased against repub ideas.

LOL keep the jokes comin man.

 

[clickclickboom]

I started reading this thread and thought that the initial responses were from someone that was truly brain dead... Then i realized that this thread was three years old.. AAAHHH the good ole days when our health care still sucked compared to our peers but at least you wouldnt go bankrupt if your kid needed an operation..

 

[Smarta$$]

Oh yeah, libs are REAL balanced. You're NEVER biased against repub ideas.

LOL keep the jokes comin man.

Of course libs are biased as well. But your basic premise that everything good that happens under a dem president is the after effect of the last republican is ridiculous.

 

[CapnVegetto]

Of course libs are biased as well. But your basic premise that everything good that happens under a dem president is the after effect of the last republican is ridiculous.

Why not? Obama does it. He's spent the last 6 years blaming Bush for literally everything short of the sky being blue.

 

[shamrock]

so from the regional airline I work for now?.my health costs will more than double? Okay, got it. Take a pay cut for two years-four if you count the difference in medical costs. Perfect. Those of you arguing national healthcare policy?..start a new thread please. Its an important issue, but not what this thread is for.

You resurrected a 3 year old thread to tell people to start a new thread?

Seriously?

 

[B6Driver]

Bush Sr. supporters never gave any of the praise to Clinton for either of his two terms.
Consistency in U.S. politics I guess is the only good thing we all can agree on.

 

[Smarta$$]

Why not? Obama does it. He's spent the last 6 years blaming Bush for literally everything short of the sky being blue.

So was he right or wrong to do that, and do you hold your party to the same standard or do you give them a free pass on this same issue?

And I thought you just said the after affects of a presidency are felt well into the next presidents term. So again, was Obama wrong to say this was left over bush? Or do you only use that argument when it is politically convenient for you?

 

[1.3XVso]

So was he right or wrong to do that, and do you hold your party to the same standard or do you give them a free pass on this same issue?

And I thought you just said the after affects of a presidency are felt well into the next presidents term. So again, was Obama wrong to say this was left over bush? Or do you only use that argument when it is politically convenient for you?

jetblue sucks

 

[BUDDHA145]

jetblue sucks

No sir your are wrong 1000000000% RAH sucks!!

 

[1.3XVso]

No sir your are wrong 1000000000% RAH sucks!!

Yes you are correct. Pinnacle sucks, rah sucks and for smartarse sake...jetblue sucks.

 

[CapnVegetto]

So was he right or wrong to do that, and do you hold your party to the same standard or do you give them a free pass on this same issue?

I would be really interested to see you answer your own question. If you answer yes, then you are basically condeming every piece of garbage that has spewed from Obozo's mouth the last 6 years, and pretty much every damn thing he said during the last election. If you answer no, then you are agreeing with me.

Politicians are all the same. They are all liars. As with most things in life, the truth is somewhere in the middle. Some stuff was Bush's fault, sure. But Obama wants you to think everything bad = Bush. The very few good things = him. Bull$hit. He's a liar.

I think Clinton was an excellent president. Why? Because, at least during his second term, he was able to reach across the aisle and WORK with the heavily republican congress to get things done. Obama is an arrogant jacka$$ that won't even entertain ideas from the other side. This is the difference. Is EVERYTHING the fault or credit of the last administration? No. That's ridiculous. But saying things like "things were great during the Clinton years JUST because of Clinton" is uninformed and disengenuous. Of course, that wasn't directed at you anyway, it was directed at the other guy.

And I thought you just said the after affects of a presidency are felt well into the next presidents term. So again, was Obama wrong to say this was left over bush? Or do you only use that argument when it is politically convenient for you?

I just explained my position in the first paragraph; but you never answered the question I posed in my first post. If Obamacare train wrecks the national healthcare system and/or the economy and there is an R POTUS in 2017, and he blames Obamacare, will you agree with him, or will you come back and say exactly what I'm saying about Obama now? Likewise, if Obamacare is a panacea, and he tries to take credit, is that wrong? I will tell you right now that I will say he is full of $hit. You know my position, the answer is somewhere in the middle. The point I'm trying to make is that Obama is incompetent and full of $hit, but that just makes him a normal politician.

 

[Smarta$$]

It's real simple, I have a problem with your response to bentover's post. You said "Did it occur to you that effects of policies generally lag about a term behind a president? ".

Then you criticize O for blaming Bush for the problems that began before he was elected, and certainly had long lasting effects. You can't have it BOTH ways. You can't in your response to bentover say that the good things in a dem presidency are from the last republican president, but then completely ignore the bad things that carry over into a dem presidency.

If the Affordable Care Act is good, then O should take some credit for it. If it is bad, then he should be blamed for it, just as he already is blamed for it.