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airbaker said:
Popcorn is popping.

$$$, respectfully, now is not the time to generalize or stereotype. FYI, the largest two contributors to the ALPA drive were ex-fighter guys.

Now is the time to build unity. We still have a membership drive to go, and need everyone to grab an oar and row.
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Well then I am looking fwd to meeting and flying with them. I guess the last 8/10 fighter guys I have dealt with are just bad apples. I am very glad there and sure there are some good ones out there. Just not my experiences.
 
$$$4nothin said:
I would say 300 of these guys are military pilots. 100 were management. 200 are ex US Air and ex TWA who would wrongfully blame alpa for all there problems in life. Unfortunately it seems JB hired every I've got mine, I don't care about you, leave all your brothers behind fighter pilot types out there. Even the night before the vote I had an F-15 gaurd driver telling me about his no vote and his tri-care and how he has his. Unfortunately the military pilots at JB have forced me to lose all respect for any single seat military driver out there. The bomber and cargo military drivers are all great guys. Don't know what the deal is with those fighter guys.
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I'm not a mil-spec... but for the record, of the 7ish guys i fly with on a regular basis that are, only 1 would have voted no and i don't know that he did. The military pilots are not the problem here. don't throw that crap around here. The guy you flew with is the acception to the rule.
 
Our biggest hurdle, by far, was the ex-UsAir East pilots. Which is not to say they were all no votes. At least 200 out of the 500+ were yes votes. Unfortunately, that left about 300, or roughly 1/2 the no votes. Thanks much to the 200 or so that helped us win.
 
UpNDownGuy said:
Our biggest hurdle, by far, was the ex-UsAir East pilots. Which is not to say they were all no votes. At least 200 out of the 500+ were yes votes. Unfortunately, that left about 300, or roughly 1/2 the no votes. Thanks much to the 200 or so that helped us win.
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There weren't but 293 ex-USAir pilots hired at any one time.
 
$$$$4Nothing -

Two "fighter guys" were THE ONEs who led this drive for the past 2.5 years, and ensured we got this done, and were inclusive to everyone...

So please don't stereotype or post something on here, you truly don't know the truth about!!

BTW... we all owe those two fighter guys, and one of those previous two... King Arthurs, died for our cause and we owe a ton and debt of gratitude...

Get your facts straight!!!

We are ALL in this together... and need to move forward together...
 
Mike 'King' Arthurs? Died? We were squadron mates in Desert Storm on the Ranger. He was a funny , stand up guy. I hadn't heard. Sad.
 
$$$4nothin said:
Even the night before the vote I had an F-15 gaurd driver telling me about his no vote and his tri-care and how he has his. Unfortunately the military pilots at JB have forced me to lose all respect for any single seat military driver out there. The bomber and cargo military drivers are all great guys. Don't know what the deal is with those fighter guys.
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Wow, a few guys' outlier opinions cause you to 'lose all respect for any single seat military driver out there'?

Speaking of stereotypes ALL of the fence-sitter or can't-debate-above-the-ninth-grade-level or 'I hate ALPA for no rational reason' guys that I flew with during the last campaign were ALL ex-regional-tards. No exceptions. I'm not exaggerating. Then again I fly min sked and with many of the same folks in my small base. Should I 'lose respect' for ALL ex regional pilots now?

Doesn't matter now because we won and won big.

For the record I do have mine and never gloat about it. I've also supported all three union drives (including donating $$ to JBPA), voted yes three times and volunteered for the OC. All from a (gasp!) 'single seat military driver'.

Myth busted.
 
In order to produce 74% every demographic needed to support the death of the DR and they did.
 
Maj said:
Wow, a few guys' outlier opinions cause you to 'lose all respect for any single seat military driver out there'?

Speaking of stereotypes ALL of the fence-sitter or can't-debate-above-the-ninth-grade-level or 'I hate ALPA for no rational reason' guys that I flew with during the last campaign were ALL ex-regional-tards. No exceptions. I'm not exaggerating. Then again I fly min sked and with many of the same folks in my small base. Should I 'lose respect' for ALL ex regional pilots now?

Doesn't matter now because we won and won big.

For the record I do have mine and never gloat about it. I've also supported all three union drives (including donating $$ to JBPA), voted yes three times and volunteered for the OC. All from a (gasp!) 'single seat military driver'.

Myth busted.
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Glad to hear it. Hope I fly with you some day so you can help change my experiences and point of view
 
BlueSurfer said:
BTW... we all owe those two fighter guys, and one of those previous two... King Arthurs, died for our cause and we owe a ton and debt of gratitude...
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I flew with him on several occasions, enjoyed the trips, had a great time. He was a good dude, and is missed.

But "died for our cause"? He died for the unionization of JetBlue? He died for ALPA? Really?

If that's what you meant it is by far the dumbest thing I have read on this forum in a long time.
 
OK SPAZ...

Died for our cause may be the wrong words... But the King was a friend of mine, and many others (and a funny, class act) and was instrumental IN OUR CAUSE...

He was also targeted by JB management... and worried about that... ever know what stress to can do to a person...

You feel better... you are the dumbazz..

I truly know why, I need to stay off these sites...
 
Who voted yes or no is not relevant anymore...time to get your act together...you have just stepped into a mine field and it's a long way to the other side...congrats on the yes vote..now time to get to work...
 
Golden Falcon said:
Who voted yes or no is not relevant anymore...time to get your act together...you have just stepped into a mine field and it's a long way to the other side...congrats on the yes vote..now time to get to work...
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Yes and No votes matter a great deal when you're voting for union leadership.

Let's be real.
 
CaptainSpaz said:
I flew with him on several occasions, enjoyed the trips, had a great time. He was a good dude, and is missed.

But "died for our cause"? He died for the unionization of JetBlue? He died for ALPA? Really?

If that's what you meant it is by far the dumbest thing I have read on this forum in a long time.
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Go f#ck yourself.
 

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