JAn.9 possible date for merger announcement

[charlie2]

USAPA is running the show, so if the BPR blesses a deal, we can move on...Funny thing is, most East pilots believe this....

Ninety percent of the pilots I fly with think we have no leverage at all in this possible merger but these are line pilots I'm talking about. I get to fly with USAPA reps now and then and try hard to go to meetings and what our reps say is they think they have a little, a little leverage with the COC, scope and utilization rate language in our contract. Carl and Becket (hi buddies) if these things weren't important to the company then why are they talking to us now about giving "relief" on these important contractual items? If you don't think these items are important would you be kind enough to explain to little old (yes OLD) line pilot why?

 

[Flybywire44]

Yes Carl S., Poison. Your infighting and insulting is a drop in the bucket of what collectively holds USAPA back. The union cannot function with the level of dysfunction people like you generate. Pointing fingers and insulting accomplishes nothing...

I think we might all be surprised by what USAPA accomplishes.

USAPA can stop the merger with the Change of Control provision alone. They should be able to accomplish something reasonable.

Flame on.

 

[Bringupthebird]

Yes Carl S., Poison. Your infighting and insulting is a drop in the bucket of what collectively holds USAPA back. The union cannot function with the level of dysfunction people like you generate. Pointing fingers and insulting accomplishes nothing...

Yeah that and suing it's own members and filing termination paperwork on their enemies (read: dues paying constituents). What holds USAPA back is supporters like you who don't demand that USAPA abandon it's divisive agenda and make unity and membership value the top two priorities. You are getting the union you deserve.

 

[Turtle21]

USAPA believes in DOH, DUI believes in the abandonment of CoC.

 

[Carl S.]

USAPA was a failure when it was created and has proudced nothing but delaying the NIC. which is not going away. RICO,SEC. 29, Addressgate are just few of the dirty tricks USAPA plays to bait EAST pilots to support this clown show that has no teeth. No unity=no power...you created the divide, not us...

 

[TWA Dude]

The union cannot function with the level of dysfunction people like you generate. Pointing fingers and insulting accomplishes nothing...

I presume you're looking in the mirror as you say that. Never forget who started this war -- you're only blaming us for fighting back against your treachery.

I think we might all be surprised by what USAPA accomplishes.

LOL! The bar is set so low for USAPA anything slightly above an abject failure is cause for celebration.

USAPA can stop the merger with the Change of Control provision alone.

Ah, yes, the famous COC clause which Dug constantly alludes to as being the biggest obstacle he must overcome. I'm sure he'll offer to tear up the Nic list in exchange for the COC. USAPA is running this show and Dug quakes in his boots.

Flame on.

You betcha, until USAPA's timely demise.

 

[charlie2]

I knew Carl and Becket wouldn't reply to my post!!!

 

[Carl S.]

charlie2, merry xmas, sorry for the late response, kids toys and such... USAPA has no leverage, they wanted the MOU, not LCC, but then we know what happen back this summer don't we? CoC is just managing your expectations, just like LOA 93 snap back, MDA snap back, Nic. is just a internal ALPA proposal and such...Believe that you have control, my kids still think someone landed on my roof last night and dumped a ton of toys for them, it's cute....

 

[Flybywire44]

I presume you're looking in the mirror as you say that. Never forget who started this war -- you're only blaming us for fighting back against your treachery.LOL! The bar is set so low for USAPA anything slightly above an abject failure is cause for celebration.Ah, yes, the famous COC clause which Dug constantly alludes to as being the biggest obstacle he must overcome. I'm sure he'll offer to tear up the Nic list in exchange for the COC. USAPA is running this show and Dug quakes in his boots.You betcha, until USAPA's timely demise.

No mirror, this "treachery" has nothing to do with me. My comments on this forum are from an objective third party perspective. DOH vs Nic has nothing to do with me.

Many east pilots and west pilots seem to be making an effort to undermine USAPA.

At this stage of the merger LCC pilots should exercise some level of faith in USAPA.

 

[TWA Dude]

No mirror, this "treachery" has nothing to do with me. My comments on this forum are from an objective third party perspective. DOH vs Nic has nothing to do with me.

Fine, so you're just an East apologist. Makes no difference to me.

Many east pilots and west pilots seem to be making an effort to undermine USAPA.

Nobody undermines USAPA more than Usapa itself. It was created to divide us an continues to do so.

At this stage of the merger LCC pilots should exercise some level of faith in USAPA.

Sure. Just as soon as they end the war on the West we can join together. It's up to them.