It's official. Pinnacle mgt asking for 5% paycut for pilots

[Smarta$$]

Add to that, "wanna-be white collar smug snobs". We are absolutely the greatest hurdle to our own success.

Agree...

 

[WMUSIGPI]

It's not an issue of "guts." ALPA created the Career Security Protocol Committee (CSPC), which was responsible for determining how to move forward with a national seniority list or something similar. They completed their work last year. Unfortunately, they found the same thing that every other group that has worked on this issue has found: the individual pilot groups just won't support it. Every time this is tried, you get the same thing: the pilot groups that are furloughing or stagnated demand a national list, and the other pilot groups refuse to even consider it. The comical thing is that the pilot groups switch every time it comes up. Last time, the UAL guys were fighting it, because they had 3-year upgrades at the time. This time, they were the ones who proposed the idea!

To put it simply, pilots are selfish. If it works in their favor, they want a national list. If it doesn't, then they oppose it. Until that changes, then no initiative by ALPA will fix it.

I am aware of that, the mistakes were made in the beginning.
The best answer today would be to get this list started for any new entrants. Eventually as everyone in ahead of the list ends their career the list will put itself in place.
Kinda like how the 3 way merger was done with Mesaba, Pinnacle, and Colgan. Merging the pre 7/1/10 was (and still would be a mess with no easy fix) the post 7/1/10 hires were simple, DOH no questions asked. Same could be with any future mergers.

 

[ex j-41]

We were all stupid enough to choose aviation as a career. Either make a career change or quit complaining, and put up with this industrie's crap until you retire!

Or you can grow a spine and work to make life better for those coming into the industry. Rather than getting on your knees and taking up the rear like some people here like to do....

 

[Flyer1015]

Don't agree to binding arbitration if you can't handle ALL possible outcomes.


Godspeed!


The OYSter

You make it sound like we pawns had any say in it. The corrupt idiots running the show agreed to binding arbitration, not the average line pilot.