It's Official, DALALPA full of crap

[Occam's Razor]

Let's see if I can summarize the next 4 pages of this thread:

"You suck!"

"Un-uh! YOU suck!"

"You suck so bad I got hickeys on my laptop screen!"

"Oh HUH! Mathematically speaking, you suck the root!"

"Well, relatively speaking, even my Mom says you suck!"

"Weasel!"

"Weenie!"


(repeat with gusto)

 

[Noserider76]

Let's see if I can summarize the next 4 pages of this thread:

"You suck!"

"Un-uh! YOU suck!"

"You suck so bad I got hickeys on my laptop screen!"

"Oh HUH! Mathematically speaking, you suck the root!"

"Well, relatively speaking, even my Mom says you suck!"

"Weasel!"

"Weenie!"


(repeat with gusto)

That was good, but when the thread title is IT'S OFFICIAL, DALALPA IS FULL OF CRAP, it kind of sets the tone. Hey, at least he used a comma. By the way, you still suck, just much less than most of the other NWA guys.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

love it

 

[ACL65PILOT]

There is more to come.

 

[jke406]

Save your contract comparison crap. I wouldn't call your contract something to be proud of. We had 50 plus guys retire this year already, how about at DAL? Yup, thought so.

so you wanted the pay raise, the DC increase, the equity, your pension, the work rules windfall, better-than-your-current ratio, and credit for orders that aren't yours?

good luck topping that in your next contract negotiation...in a few years.

maybe you'll get free wi-fi in your hotel rooms, though. and 5% off happy hour. that's something to shoot for.

 

[Occam's Razor]

Exhibit "A"*








*absent the intellectualism of 2nd graders.

 

[737 Pylt]

Let's see if I can summarize the next 4 pages of this thread:

"You suck!"

"Un-uh! YOU suck!"

"You suck so bad I got hickeys on my laptop screen!"

"Oh HUH! Mathematically speaking, you suck the root!"

"Well, relatively speaking, even my Mom says you suck!"

"Weasel!"

"Weenie!"


(repeat with gusto)

Yeah, well, HE started it!

737

 

[NuGuy]

Let's see if I can summarize the next 4 pages of this thread:

"You suck!"

"Un-uh! YOU suck!"

"You suck so bad I got hickeys on my laptop screen!"

"Oh HUH! Mathematically speaking, you suck the root!"

"Well, relatively speaking, even my Mom says you suck!"

"Weasel!"

"Weenie!"


(repeat with gusto)

Oh yea? Yo mama sooo fat, your neighbors said "That's no moon, that's a space station"

Nyuk, nyuk....

Nu

 

[Zipperhead]

LMAO!
Hey numbnutz....The NWA position of DOH was as rediculous as your claim above. I can't wait til your next dance partner tells you to go pound sand. After giving the DAL pilots the middle finger, you won't have anyone willing to give in to your rediculous DOH demands and stapling anyone to the bottom of your list.
You can keep your old dc9's, 747's, and substandard wages......After your senior guys decide to continue to fly past age 60 your career stagnation wll be as bad as your greed. One thing's for sure. You all deserve each other!


Truth hurts huh? Our position was never DOH, but some moron at DAL started that rumor and all the "we believe everything we are told" types believed it. Our position was slotted, ie, NWA pilot retires, NWA pilot moves up.

Save your contract comparison crap. I wouldn't call your contract something to be proud of. We had 50 plus guys retire this year already, how about at DAL? Yup, thought so.

Don't try to use logic with 737pylt, he thinks any merger with the airine he works for should send him to the top of the seniority list. Don't bother wasting your time "debating" with him. He'll spin and spin and spin everything you say and he'll believe everything his beloved DALPA tells him. Watch the ridiciolous reply to this post......

 

[737 Pylt]

Don't try to use logic with 737pylt, he thinks any merger with the airine he works for should send him to the top of the seniority list. Don't bother wasting your time "debating" with him. He'll spin and spin and spin everything you say and he'll believe everything his beloved DALPA tells him. Watch the ridiciolous reply to this post......

Zipperhead:
I fart in your general direction!

737

 

[Zipperhead]

Zipperhead:
I fart in your general direction!

737

That's lucid...

 

[~~~^~~~]

Actually, the integration method was pretty radical. All NWA and DAL pilots were to be "slotted". As each side had attrition, each side's pilots would move up to the next "slot" for that airline. It was remarkably similar to the "dynamic seniority list" someone presented here a while back...each side preserved the attrition that it brought to the table. This part of the SLI was SOLVED!

There was NO problem with a relative seniority merger at all. In fact, unlike what we'd been led to believe here, the NWA team was pushing this along with the dynamic list concept. But the problem was the slotting ratio, which VASTLY favored the DAL pilots. It wasn't even close to a 1.4 ratio, which is what a even split (percentile list) would have created. It was closer to a 1.8 ratio, which backloaded the list with NWA guys. It didn't come anywhere NEAR a "relative seniority" merge. There were guys that were going to have double digit percentile shifts and made an out of proportion number of NWA guys furlough fodder (which, apparently, DAL management suddenly decided to welch on).

Nu

Nu,

It is interesting to gain a little insight into what was the table positions, then compare these positions to what people write on these boards.

If my understanding is correct, the NWA pilots wanted dynamic seniority, but had the DAL pilots run the model and report back to them. NWA's revisions did not sound as good to me as the original proposal and put more NWA pilots on the bottom than the DAL proposal.

I'm sure the NWA pilots are good folks. If anything there was a big difference in the time both sides had to prepare which resulted in a big difference in how offers and resolutions were percieved and evaluated.

No hard feelings on this side. Good luck to you, our codeshare partners, it is going to be a bumpy ride for all of us.

I get the feeling something else is in the works for Delta with another airline.

 

[Freight Dog]

Is it me or is seniority system/concept one big evil?

 

[TWA Dude]

No, it isn't evil, but it is brutal. It's also necessary.

 

[dtfl]

Nope, I don't favor a position that let's DAL pilots move up in seniority vacancies that were created by retirements of NWA pilots. Especially, since there would be very few retirements at DAL. Throw in:

Retirement PROMISES. THose guys say they will punch at 60. You actually believe that don't you? :-\