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Is Uncle Worse Than Sh**inga?

Diesel

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Lol.

Yip doesn't want to say management thuggery but union thuggery is fine.

How about leadership thuggery, I could like that one, but do you mean by management that the guys in accounting are beating you up?
 

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How about leadership thuggery, I could like that one, but do you mean by management that the guys in accounting are beating you up?

I think if any department that has caused more damage to the brand and the pilots would be accounting.
 

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So there had to be financial disclosure when DAC bought Flex from Bombardier and the STIP payout had to be disclosed in the settlement figures. What was the payout from Bombardier and at 1+% paid to the pilots, can anyone figure out how much Uncle put in his pocket?
 

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... I think of managment as the guys in accounting who pay the bills, the guys in ops who comply with the regs and marketing guys who sell product. Simple day to day functions that make it possible for a company to operate.

You might like to think of it in those simple terms, but that certainly doesn't make it correct.

How about leadership thuggery, I could like that one, but do you mean by management that the guys in accounting are beating you up?

I think you are confused. "Leadership" is a quality of good management, thuggery and fear are qualities of bad management. Management is NOT accounting. Accounting, like every other department, does what management tells (or inspires) them to.

If you had good leadership, someone who was looking out for you none of this would be taking place...

We can agree on that.
 

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So there had to be financial disclosure when DAC bought Flex from Bombardier and the STIP payout had to be disclosed in the settlement figures. What was the payout from Bombardier and at 1+% paid to the pilots, can anyone figure out how much Uncle put in his pocket?

I think you're referring to the bonus earned in 2013 but paid after the sale in 2014. That was covered by BBD, not DAC.

Without any metrics or even budget numbers its impossible to calculate what the 2014 bonus would have been using the same formula as 2013. KR is quoted as saying that a $4.5M payout to the pilots was "unpalatable". I guess $350K is tolerable, giving a difference of about $4.1M.

I'm pretty sure I know what the 2015 bonus is, and it is definitely unpalatable.
 

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Well well ... management thuggery. Say it ain't so! G4? Yip?:)

I agree. Thuggery is thuggery. Ricci deserves the meanest union possible. Alternatively, all his pilots should take the good money coming from the pilot shortage and go elsewhere if they can. Leave him high and dry.
 

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Speaking of the other half of this comparison, look who's out as head of Signature & the Flight Support division. From a BBA statement 5/8:

Michael Scheeringa (President and CEO, Flight Support) resigned from BBA Aviation to pursue other opportunities. Michael has stepped down from the Executive Committee and ceased to have operational responsibility for Flight Support from 1st May. Responsibility for the division has been transferred to Simon Pryce, Group Chief Executive. Michael will remain within the organisation to ensure a smooth transition until he leaves the Group later in the year. The Board thanks Michael for his efforts and significant contribution during his time at BBA Aviation and wishes him well in the next phase of his career.
 

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I agree. Thuggery is thuggery. Ricci deserves the meanest union possible. Alternatively, all his pilots should take the good money coming from the pilot shortage and go elsewhere if they can. Leave him high and dry.

Sorry G4, I'm in this for the long haul.

BTW, Uncle is going to use one of the brand new Gulfstreams for his personal airplane instead of it going to the line to generate revenue. If he can afford that, he can afford to give me a nice raise. GC
 

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Sorry G4, I'm in this for the long haul.

BTW, Uncle is going to use one of the brand new Gulfstreams for his personal airplane instead of it going to the line to generate revenue. If he can afford that, he can afford to give me a nice raise. GC

There is something supremely f'ed up with a man making millions off of a business model he doesn't even believe in.

Kenn Ricci, the slum lord millionaire of the skies. Or at least that's his plan.

I feel angry on behalf of our owners.
 

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Uncle is going to use one of the brand new Gulfstreams for his personal airplane instead of it going to the line to generate revenue. If he can afford that, he can afford to give me a nice raise. GC

Actually, he bought a GV, that will be his personal. Then what he is going to do is take his old as* serial #1 GIV, paint it in FJ colors, interior like the G450 and use it for "supplemental" lift for the G450 fleet.
 

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Actually, he bought a GV, that will be his personal. Then what he is going to do is take his old as* serial #1 GIV, paint it in FJ colors, interior like the G450 and use it for "supplemental" lift for the G450 fleet.

Interviews for those pilot positions will be taking place in Cleveland soon, and will last a week. They will then hold a "rose ceremony" and KR will give the pilots he chose a rose and ask them to be his chosen ones.

It will really be classy. ;)
 

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Interviews for those pilot positions will be taking place in Cleveland soon, and will last a week. They will then hold a "rose ceremony" and KR will give the pilots he chose a rose and ask them to be his chosen ones.

It will really be classy. ;)

What, no invitation to the "Fantasy Suite"?
 

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Interviews for those pilot positions will be taking place in Cleveland soon, and will last a week. They will then hold a "rose ceremony" and KR will give the pilots he chose a rose and ask them to be his chosen ones.

It will really be classy. ;)

Stop it! I all most drowned on my morning coffee! Then I realized how close to accurate the statement is and now I am depressed, might have to call in sick!
 

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I was gonna post something but I then I started looking at the "Chinese Lady" ad on the right of my screen and Oh My God have you ever seen an Asian girl with a rack like that and I'm sorry if that was in poor taste but seriously have you?
 

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We'll put the band back together, do a few gigs, we get some bread.

Back to one of the subjects of the original thread, look who's getting together again. Maybe they'll invest in Flex.

http://sar-trilogy.com/who-we-are/

"The team has spent their careers growing, re-structuring, and advising businesses to improve profitability and increase enterprise value." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkPw4oudywE
 
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Sh!tfinger got fired from Signature for trying to get employees to falsify the fuel holdings for the government contracts, and just look up what Sandip did with Kingfisher and SpiceJet.

What a disaster these two are.
 

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I was gonna post something but I then I started looking at the "Chinese Lady" ad on the right of my screen and Oh My God have you ever seen an Asian girl with a rack like that and I'm sorry if that was in poor taste but seriously have you?

I don't see the rack. Did you get a screen shot?
 
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