Is Stop Loss only for the AF?

[flying]

Hey guys,
I am trying to drum up all the info I can before I go meet with our JAG. Is the AF the only service affected by Stop Loss? I think that is correct, but not for sure. I don't want to discriminate, but I am looking for pilot types(AFSC's) stuck in Stop Loss only. Thanks for any help / info.

Good luck to all trying to escape!

flying

 

[ETXflyer]

The only info I know is what I've seen on this board and that is:

AF is stop lossed and Marine KC-130 pilots.

How can this be? If you find out let me know.

I'm sure we would all be VERY interested to hear what your JAG has to say.

Let us know

ETX

 

[skiddriver]

You're not alone, the Army has a stop loss for their pilots. Not sure about the Navy. Marine Corps hasn't instituted one yet.

Good luck, but I'm not sure the JAG is going to be able to help you with stop-loss with the "fairness of application between the services" angle. Stop-loss is an administrative policy, and unless it violates a federal statute in application (EEO laws or something like it) it would be difficult to override. You're probably better off trying for the waiver or CONGRINT, a legal challenge isn't going anywhere.

 

[shootr]

No Stop-Loss for Navy Pilots. Marine KC-130 pilots are in fact Stop-Lossed.

On a side note, after the attacks I explored getting back into the Navy and they were not interested (I am and was a current reservist). Either they didn't like me or didn't need me!

Good Luck.
shootr

 

[skiddriver]

Oops! The Herc bubbas! I knew that...sorry guys, just incipient old-person's brain degradation.

 

[ETXflyer]

Just curious

Hey skid,

Is that just army PILOTs, and is it ALL pilots?

ETX

 

[skiddriver]

ETX,

Not entirely sure, I'm Marine Corps (just retired). I've been following the saga on the ATPAP site. It's definitely their Warrant Officers in 64's, 60's, and 47's. Maybe their commissioned pilots and 58 guys as well. TF160 guys are caught up in it too.

One interesting thing that happened recently was that the Army involuntarily, and with no notice, activated several 47 pilots from the IRR. How'd you like to find that letter in your mail box?

Me, I'm on the hook for recall for the next 17 years. Got to stay trim so those uniforms will fit. Semper fi...

 

[MTOP_set]

Army Stop Loss as I understand it.

A. COMMISSIONED OFFICERS WITH SPECIALTY 18.

B. WARRANT OFFICERS WITH SPECIALTY 180A.

C. AVIATION WARRANT OFFICERS WITH SPECIALTIES 152C, 153D, 153E, 154C, AND 154E.

D. ALL WARRANT OFFICERS WITH ADDITIONAL SKILL IDENTIFIER K4, K, OR K6.

E. ENLISTED SOLDIERS WITH MILITARY OCCUPATIONAL SPECIALTIES 18, 18C, 18D, 18E, 18F, 18Z, 67U, AND 00Z (CAREER MANAGEMENT FIELD 18 BACKGROUND).

F. OFFICER SPECIALTIES:
15C35 AVIATION ALL SOURCE INTELLIGENCE
31 MILITARY POLICE
35 MILITARY INTELLIGENCE
45A COMPTROLLER
48E FOREIGN AREA OFFICER (EURASIA)
48G FOREIGN AREA OFFICER (MIDDLE EAST/NORTH AFRICA)
51Z CONTRACT & INDUSTRIAL MANAGEMENT

G. WARRANT OFFICER SPECIALTIES:
155E C-12 PILOT
155G O-5A/EO-5B/RC-7 PILOT
311A CID SPECIAL AGENT
350B ALL SOURCE INTELLIGENCE TECHNICIAN
350D IMAGERY INTELLIGENCE TECHNICIAN
351B COUNTER INTELLIGENCE TECHNICIAN
351C AREA INTELLIGENCE TECHNICIAN
351E HUMAN INTELLIGENCE COLLECTION TECHNICIAN
352G VOICE INTERCEPT TECHNICIAN

H. ENLISTED MILITARY OCCUPATIONAL SPECIALTIES:
33W INTELLIGENCE ELECTRONIC WARFARE REPAIRMAN
74B INFORMATION SYSTEMS OPERATOR
81T TOPOGRAPHIC ANALYST
92R PARACHUTE RIGGER
95B MILITARY POLICE
95C INTERNMENT SPECIALIST
95D CID SPECIAL AGENT
96B INTELLIGENCE ANALYST
96D IMAGERY ANALYST
96H IMAGERY GROUND STATION OPERATOR
96R GROUND SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM OPERATOR
96Z SENIOR INTELLIGENCE NCO
97B COUNTER INTELLIGENCE AGENT
97E HUMAN INTELLIGENCE COLLECTOR
97L TRANSLATOR/INTERPRETER
97Z SENIOR HUMAN INTELLIGENCE NCO
98C SIGNALS INTELLIGENCE ANALYST
98G VOICE INTERCEPTOR - CRYPTOLOGIC LINGUIST
98H COMMUNICATIONS INTERCEPTOR
98J ELECTRONIC INTELLIGENCE ANALYST
98K SIGNAL COLLECTION ANALYST
98Z SENIOR SIGNAL INTELLIGENCE NCO

This is a combination of several messages that started with operators and repairers of special ops airframes and has snowballed into this.

 

[Anaconda]

47 pilots aren't the only ones to get involuntarily recalled. i know of several 60 pilots that have recieved the fed ex from the army as well...