Is Jetblue considering going to a single pay rate?

[coogebeachhotel]

Word is from the squadron no raises at B6 this year. Big boys say they can't afford it.

 

[IronCityBlue]

Word is from the squadron no raises at B6 this year. Big boys say they can't afford it.

And so it begins...

 

[Longhorn]

Word is from the squadron no raises at B6 this year. Big boys say they can't afford it.

When did you hear this? I have been hearing just the opposite.

 

[IronCityBlue]

When did you hear this? I have been hearing just the opposite.

Heard Mr. "Zero Out Your Contracts" said we can't get 10% raises or else everyone else at the company will want it. Yeah.

 

[Longhorn]

Yea, I just heard that as well....after I posted. Well, who knows at this point what will happen. The rumors are flying in both directions.

 

[Whiskerbizkit]

Heard Mr. "Zero Out Your Contracts" said we can't get 10% raises or else everyone else at the company will want it. Yeah.

Um, doesn't everbody want a raise? May be he really wants a union here and this is way of making it happen.

 

[Dizel8]

Heck, every time he opens his mouth, something bad comes out.

He is rapidly becoming a poster child for why people unionize.

 

[CaptainSpaz]

Leadership knows they can pay now and possibly put off a union, or pay later... much later.

 

[Lake Alice]

Take the hours flown, the amount of money we made, the number of planes we have, the colossal February 14th mistake, company mentality of one group being equal to another and the lack of any sort of negotiating committee and all this adds up to no raise. Face reality fellas.

 

[IronCityBlue]

Take the hours flown, the amount of money we made, the number of planes we have, the colossal February 14th mistake, company mentality of one group being equal to another and the lack of any sort of negotiating committee and all this adds up to no raise. Face reality fellas.

That's okay. Another year of pay erosion and management arrogance will only help the union drive. Bring it on.

 

[StarChecker]

That's okay. Another year of pay erosion and management arrogance will only help the union drive. Bring it on.

Or if JR keeps opening his fat mouth saying ridiculous things...it should take about a week

 

[Mach92]

Or if JR keeps opening his fat mouth saying ridiculous things...it should take about a week

Who is JR?

 

[8vATE]

That's okay. Another year of pay erosion and management arrogance will only help the union drive. Bring it on.

Pardon me but I question your airline industry knowledge and your personal airline experience if you think JetBlue's management is "arrogant" in the vein of historical "arrogance" in this industry.

If anything, JetBlues Leadership has been accessible, understanding, aggressively reactive when needed and has demonstrated a willingness to address employee's concerns.

Your spouting off calling them arrogant demonstrates your ignorance of other airline's histories, corporate culture and labor/mgt relations.

Maybe you need to go back and do some more research?

 

[Dizel8]

"If anything, JetBlues Leadership has been accessible, understanding, aggressively reactive when needed and has demonstrated a willingness to address employee's concerns."

With emphasis on has, they do not seem to be so now. JR has been heard loud and clear by many, his statements are not made in a vacuum, nor has he been reined in by DB.

The jetblue culture of the past and the jetblue culture of the current are vastly different, who knows what it will be in the future?

 

[8vATE]

The jetblue culture of the past and the jetblue culture of the current are vastly different, who knows what it will be in the future?

Yes.. can't disagree with some of your concern with your statement.

I think the reality is the bean counters and JB leadership realize that the amount of feel-good cash they can throw around for employee benefits/compensation is vaporizing just as fast as $104 barrel oil is rocketing skyward.

So...
Reality bites..
If you really want to make some $$$$ in this industry, fire up your UPS/FDX applications.

 

[elag777]

Or if JR keeps opening his fat mouth saying ridiculous things...it should take about a week

Oh I can hardly wait!! Work rules frozen..... in negotiations for the next four years....Mgmt: "So you want more money? well give us something to work with....like 50% pay for WX and MX cxld flights instead of the current 100%. Trips paid at just block, cause your gonna make more right? instead of block or better. You missed a commute...oh we're sorry, you loose a day off and a day's pay and have to make it up to us!"
How low has Spirit Alpo been at the table? 4+ yrs?

Oh I can hardly wait!!! :erm:

 

[jke406]

Trips paid at just block, cause your gonna make more right? instead of block or better.

With fuel as expensive as it is, if they play that game, their gas bill is going to skyrocket when guys start flying at .84 to make block.

 

[CaptainSpaz]

Oh I can hardly wait!! Work rules frozen..... in negotiations for the next four years....Mgmt: "So you want more money? well give us something to work with....like 50% pay for WX and MX cxld flights instead of the current 100%. Trips paid at just block, cause your gonna make more right? instead of block or better. You missed a commute...oh we're sorry, you loose a day off and a day's pay and have to make it up to us!"
How low has Spirit Alpo been at the table? 4+ yrs?

Oh I can hardly wait!!! :erm:

What is wrong with an in-house union at JetBlue who's goal is to represent the interests of every pilot here while maintaining a good relationship with our leadership?

My friend, this is a natural evolution in the fututre of this company.

 

[StarChecker]

Oh I can hardly wait!! Work rules frozen..... in negotiations for the next four years....Mgmt: "So you want more money? well give us something to work with....like 50% pay for WX and MX cxld flights instead of the current 100%. Trips paid at just block, cause your gonna make more right? instead of block or better. You missed a commute...oh we're sorry, you loose a day off and a day's pay and have to make it up to us!"
How low has Spirit Alpo been at the table? 4+ yrs?

Oh I can hardly wait!!! :erm:

Easy to say from the left seat of the Bus...there's 1400 of us not there yet...

 

[elag777]

Easy to say from the left seat of the Bus...there's 1400 of us not there yet...

What you've been at B6 Since Feb 07 right ?