Is Jetblue considering going to a single pay rate?

[commuterguy]

Don't know where I heard it from, but seems I've read that JB may go to a single pay rate for both aircraft. Is there any truth to the rumor at all? If both aircraft went to the airbus pay rates that would make it a very attractive place to be.

 

[Longhorn]

It has been discussed and is one of the many options that the company is looking at. I would not bank on anything just yet and wait until March or April when the pay review is over...by then we will all know much more.

LH

 

[jetflier]

Don't know where I heard it from, but seems I've read that JB may go to a single pay rate for both aircraft. Is there any truth to the rumor at all? If both aircraft went to the airbus pay rates that would make it a very attractive place to be.

That would be the beginning of the company dipping in the pilots pockets to fix their mistakes.

You know that they will not be raising the Airbus pay rate,...they want to lower it by using the support of the lesser paid RJ pilots.

They are trying to chip away at the pay rates because they see the change in pilot pay rates rising in the near future.

Its less expensive for them to go up from a lower payscale than from the current payscale.

 

[MD80DRVR]

NOBODY on the property would support lowering the airbus pay rate just to get a raise on the E190. The airbus is the light at the end of the tunnel, why would anyone want to dim it?

 

[zkmayo]

The issue involves raising the 190 rates to a new COLA adjusted 320 rates, not the other way around (although that has been the dark joke around the pilot group). Benefits for the co. would be the savings on training events and culture benefits of not having a 320 vs. 190 mentality. For the pilots, obviously it would be a significant pay inc for 190 pilots. Only negative would be that same reason; 320 pilots would not get as large of an increase for having been at the co longer(most are more senior)/flying a larger airplane.

To me the best argument for 1 rate is that the pilots are the only employee group that get paid a different rate for working on a different airplane (that is besides the fact that we are underpaid).

 

[Whiskerbizkit]

One payrate will be fine if we do it like UPS, but we know thats not going to happen. Rummor is one pay rate, then larger aircraft.

 

[johnboy99]

That would be the beginning of the company dipping in the pilots pockets to fix their mistakes.

You mean like northwest did to it's pilots when they filed bankruptcy??

 

[PinnacleDude]

That would be the beginning of the company dipping in the pilots pockets to fix their mistakes.

You mean like northwest did to it's pilots when they filed bankruptcy??

Low blow. That is like me asking why JetBlue guys don't talk to your union about not settling for a single rate below the A320.

 

[clickclickboom]

The PVC and PCG are calling it " STATUS " Pay.. A recent survey was sent to all pilots and the information will be presented to the BOD.

Expect to see 190 match 320 or come very close 80-90%

Expect to see the 190 and 320 fo rates match with a better longevity raise after years 3-5

That being said the bus guys will still make more money.. A 50% bider on the bus can get 85-90 hrs and 16 days off average while the corresponding 190 guy can only get about 75-80 with 13-14 days off.

 

[IronCityBlue]

That being said the bus guys will still make more money.. A 50% bider on the bus can get 85-90 hrs and 16 days off average while the corresponding 190 guy can only get about 75-80 with 13-14 days off.

That's because the 190 trips suck, but they don't have to. Even the bus trips with the productive red eye stuff have been slipping lately in terms of quality and productivity. Opening up too many bases too fast can really dillute good flying into bad trips real quick.

The 190 will never have the red eye stuff but right now its utilization sucks bad because its mechanical quality sucks bad. If it comes around and the company feels they can turn it loose (*ding* its now free to fly around the country) then the split in trip quality will narrow significantly.