Is it worth it?...

[THEPRFCT10]

I know you guys speak your heart out here: Is it worth going to an AIR Inc. seminar? (As a AF mil guy getting ready to get out)...

 

[noreaster]

I know you guys speak your heart out here: Is it worth going to an AIR Inc. seminar? (As a AF mil guy getting ready to get out)...

If you're just getting started and don't have the slightest clue on what is up with the airline world or you have no leads or personal contacts...yeah it's a good thing. Meeting face to face with airline reps, though, can make or break you!! I know lots of people that look great on paper but said that they made a poor showing while speaking with airline "X" or "y" and sure enough didn't get that call.

All the "stuff" they throw at you all day long is just that...statistics and such. Ask your buds to fill you in on the particulars...

Bottom line...if you go, put on your smile and don't act like a jackass. If you're talking with someone from Southwest, don't even mention another airline!! It's all about you and why THEY should consider you.

Hope that helps

 

[blueridge71]

I got my current job through an Air Inc seminar. After sending resumes for a couple of years with no response, I was in class two months after the seminar.

A lot of companies appreciate the effort that goes into attending a seminar.

 

[Bjammin]

I have 4 interviews within one month of a seminar after getting none for 10 months.

Good stuff to be had at those things. All the pubs stuff I got with the membership was OK, but I would just go to the seminar and meet and greet. Take a class or 2 on interview prep and resume writing if you want.

 

[Flyer1015]

Bj, are you looking at leaving Cathay Pacific?

 

[Snapshot]

It couldn't hurt, Kit Darby tells me there's a pilot shortage.....

 

[MalteseX]

I know you guys speak your heart out here: Is it worth going to an AIR Inc. seminar? (As a AF mil guy getting ready to get out)...

Going to the SEMINAR is worth it. But so are seminars or job fairs from other companies. The "face-to-face" is worth it. But as someone on here said earlier, 'put on your game face...' If you go, be ready as far as dress and appearance. Pretend that you are being evaluated because you are.

Some companies use the seminars as a 'smaller pile' of resumes. Means that if you directly give them a resume, it may go into a smaller pile. Probably won't work with UPS or FedEx, though. Need internals from those companies.

Much of the stuff Air, Inc sells is not worth the cost, but that is not the case of the seminars. If you are coming out of the military and aren't up on the happenings with all the companies, GO.

 

[BigRed1]

A web site I and many of my fellow pilots have found helpful is:

www.climbto350.com

You cannot get the specifics of the job listings without a small fee, but the diversity of companies, both local and international is very interesting. They have job listings for corporate and airline as well as aviation related non flying jobs. Not a bad place to start the job search. Good luck. Its a jungle out here in the real world of commercial aviation.

 

[Kugelblitz]

I know you guys speak your heart out here: Is it worth going to an AIR Inc. seminar? (As a AF mil guy getting ready to get out)...

If you can stay in the Air Force and make a career and keep your marriage intact, I would strongly suggest that you stay in. This career is not what it once was and probably will never be that way again.

I am presently with airline number 6 (Air Midwest, Transtates, TWA, American, Comair, and now Continental). There is no job security in this industry as my past seems to show.

If you do need to come out, use your Air Force background and connections to get on with FedEx.

 

[frog_flyer]

If you do need to come out, use your Air Force background and connections to get on with FedEx.

The DC10 type can't look all that bad either

 

[klr1395]

best kept secret

My $.02; go to WAI conference in MCO Feb 15-18 I think are the dates. A lot fewer people, you will stand out due to your gender (if you are male), the fee is cheaper, and you will get remembered by those with which you visit, because for a change the dark blue/black suit with a white shirt and red tie will be in the minority. Also, almost everyone with jobs are there from all walks of aviation, nobody wants to be seen as unfriendly to hiring women or not completely supportive of that. I would do this instead of Air INC... but either way some sort of fair is a good idea. If I have to cover the last good reason to go well then there is little hope. Cheers and best of luck!

 

[RedDogC130]

If you can stay in the Air Force and make a career and keep your marriage intact, I would strongly suggest that you stay in. .

You obviously have not been in the military lately. The depolyment rates make an airline gig look like a vacation.

 

[Mooseflyer]

If you can stay in the Air Force and make a career and keep your marriage intact, I would strongly suggest that you stay in. This career is not what it once was and probably will never be that way again.

I am presently with airline number 6 (Air Midwest, Transtates, TWA, American, Comair, and now Continental). There is no job security in this industry as my past seems to show.

If you do need to come out, use your Air Force background and connections to get on with FedEx.

Bingo.

If you're the breadwinner in your family, I'd seriously consider staying on active duty if possible. Now, if you're wife brings home some bacon and her career would be seriously hampered by PCSing on a regular basis, maybe you have a reason to bail. If you're set on getting out, I'd say concentrate your energy on getting your reserve gig lined up first - then worry about an airline job - and one at FDX/UPS at that. Take a look at the thread about W2s - pretty sad when some of the highest paid pilots in the sky are active duty military

 

[Nocturnal1]

I totally agree with the posts to stay in. I retired w/ 23 yrs. and that check coming in every month really helps the first couple of years. It's also peace of mind should something bad happen--at least it covers the house payment and a couple sacks of groceries. Finally, when you decide to retire-punch, go to the Transition Assistance Program (TAP) briefings 2 years prior to leaving. Great info on financial planning, i.e. pay everything off and have 6 months + of cash on hand, especially if you have a family.

P.S. Get ready to be bored out of your skull--whether you're flyin people or boxes it's boring as it gets--same places over and over and over and over.