Is it true that a 7 year Flex guy went to Net Jets?

[gipper6]

Midnightflyer you're a total moron and have no credibility. The 7 year FlexJet Captain has more balls than anyone on this forum. Truth is, we need more guys like him to take a stand against this historic aviation backslide, send a shot across the bow of management and let them know how we feel. Midnightflyer - your're a simple coward who hides in the shadows of those with tremendous courage. I'm sure you'd be happy to take any improvements to your miserable life by those who put it all on the line to help raise the bar. The old addage "It takes one to know one" rings quite true in this regard. The FlexJet guy has balls and you don't.

 

[ArtVandalay]

He must have left for pure QOL issues because he will never make up the money he is losing over the next few years.

 

[G100driver]

Maybe when the company gets sold off things will improve. What's the writing on the wall say about that?

Interesting thought. Just ask the guys at TWA, PSA, Western Airlines, Peidmont (the original), Republic (they are still bitter) about how things improved for them.

 

[miles otoole]

Midnightflyer you're a total moron and have no credibility. The 7 year FlexJet Captain has more balls than anyone on this forum. Truth is, we need more guys like him to take a stand against this historic aviation backslide, send a shot across the bow of management and let them know how we feel. Midnightflyer - your're a simple coward who hides in the shadows of those with tremendous courage. I'm sure you'd be happy to take any improvements to your miserable life by those who put it all on the line to help raise the bar. The old addage "It takes one to know one" rings quite true in this regard. The FlexJet guy has balls and you don't.

I'm sure the 4 year WN guys I still talk to who who left for UAL and DAL are proud of their decision. Didn't Flex have a higher payscale than NJ for the past 4-5 years? Were the Flex pilots upset then? The big question is-can NJ really afford this? If their prices are then 25-30% higher than others, I doubt most CFOs who have more influence in companies fiscal decisions than ever before can recommend paying 30% more for the same product. Afer all, in 2005 more CEOs left or were forced out of their positions (over 1200 publically traded companies) than in any other year. The primary driver was fiduciary irresponsibility.

The guy does have cojones. He's taking a huge risk. What happens if in the very good possibility that Flexjet gets a union in the next year or two and has to match or get close to NJ? He'll be seeing the right seat of a 400 for the next 5 -6 years. WOW!

 

[gunfyter]

Miles

You can more than make up that money by moving to Columbus and becoming an Assistant Chief Pilot. Many have done so in less than a year. Maybe he has been told he has a shot at a management job.

There are not so many of us with 7+ yrs of fractional Experience.

 

[CL604DRVR]

He must have left for pure QOL issues because he will never make up the money he is losing over the next few years.

Money ain't all it's cracked up to be especially if you have to give 20% more time to the company to get it and pay big money for your health care. As for the 400 there was no one in my Dec indoc class in the 400 and only 2 in the ultra and they were hired before ratification. Lots of folks going to larger aircraft now.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Miles

You can more than make up that money by moving to Columbus and becoming an Assistant Chief Pilot. Many have done so in less than a year. Maybe he has been told he has a shot at a management job.

There are not so many of us with 7+ yrs of fractional Experience.

Mmmmmmmm. Not from what I hear. Those guys were just offered Reverve pay for their year and pay class plus 2 extended days. Hell, they can make that on the road.

Maybe if they were looking at the ACP money from the standpoint of getting a quick upgrade to act as an ACP rather than flying as F/O for a few years until normal upgrade.

I think that would be damn hard to be a new NJA pilot and suddenly be an effective ACP. Few, if any, can do it and be a good ACP.

 

[gunfyter]

Mmmmmmmm. Not from what I hear. Those guys were just offered Reverve pay for their year and pay class plus 2 extended days. Hell, they can make that on the road.

Maybe if they were looking at the ACP money from the standpoint of getting a quick upgrade to act as an ACP rather than flying as F/O for a few years until normal upgrade.

I think that would be dang hard to be a new NJA pilot and suddenly be an effective ACP. Few, if any, can do it and be a good ACP.

I think a guy with 7 yrs fractional experience could do it easliy....

 

[vetrider]

Some people are just bound and determined that the grass is always greener somewhere else.

 

[nipper]

I'm sure the 4 year WN guys I still talk to who who left for UAL and DAL are proud of their decision. Didn't Flex have a higher payscale than NJ for the past 4-5 years?

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Have you heard the term "daily rate"?