Is Flexjet still around

[FastJP4]

Just had to ask. Haven't visited in a while, but couldn't help but notice no Flexjet related threads. - just the usual Berkshire crowd.

 

[AftCG182]

The BH crowd will be steering this thread in the proper direction in 3... 2... 1...

Oh, and FWIW, the Flexjet crews that I've shared a crew van with lately say that things are going well over there :beer:

 

[rettofly]

The BH crowd will be steering this thread in the proper direction in 3... 2... 1...

Oh, and FWIW, the Flexjet crews that I've shared a crew van with lately say that things are going well over there :beer:

You're riding in vans? No wonder I was always in trouble with KM.

 

[doylehargraves]

Same old stuff going on at flex, other than the avantair rumor that is. And, HUGE pay raises coming this year...

 

[DUATS]

Same old stuff going on at flex, other than the avantair rumor that is. And, HUGE pay raises coming this year...

How about, "...and rehiring everyone who was furloughed in '09"?

 

[doylehargraves]

Yeah, that too. Plus, new order for 86 Globals

 

[BentOver]

86 Globals? Never heard that.. Good for you guys.. Atleast someone is doing well!

When was that order placed? 5000/6000?

 

[doylehargraves]

Maybe it was 86 iPads. Don't remember. You know, the last 2 to 3 years has been flat in the industry. One would think that a company would take advantage of that time to make in-house improvements for future efficient operations, such as, automatic crew catering, EFB's, etc. I think Flex has missed an opportunity to do such things the last few years. It has been the status quo for quite some time now and there seems to be no "thirst" anymore. I guess flat is the new normal and grinding the stone is par for the course now. It's almost become somewhat of a "boring" industry. I understand conservative thinking during these times but, where has that gotten us?? What if Apple inc. had this same mindset the last few years?? Aggression and growth when there is blood on the streets. This was Steve Jobs mindset and now look at how amazing that company has become and, now look at Flexjet and the fractional industry, it's quite depressing.

 

[G4dude]

Maybe it was 86 iPads. Don't remember. You know, the last 2 to 3 years has been flat in the industry. One would think that a company would take advantage of that time to make in-house improvements for future efficient operations, such as, automatic crew catering, EFB's, etc. I think Flex has missed an opportunity to do such things the last few years. It has been the status quo for quite some time now and there seems to be no "thirst" anymore. I guess flat is the new normal and grinding the stone is par for the course now. It's almost become somewhat of a "boring" industry. I understand conservative thinking during these times but, where has that gotten us?? What if Apple inc. had this same mindset the last few years?? Aggression and growth when there is blood on the streets. This was Steve Jobs mindset and now look at how amazing that company has become and, now look at Flexjet and the fractional industry, it's quite depressing.

The economy is depressing, which is why Flex is not expanding.

 

[BentOver]

G4 is on my ignore list.. But I'm sure he said something about the company and employees having to sacrifice, for the good of the company and all.

I'm also certain he blamed everyone but the management.. probably the economy.

I agree... Now is the time to go after the golden ring. Punch harder when others are down. NJA could have obliterated the competition. Instead we are giving up market share. Flex could have been doing the same thing. I thought they were? Must have been mistaken?

 

[rettofly]

The latest issue of Business/Commercial Aciation has a good article on the Frax industry.

For your reading pleasure:

http://magazinesdownload.com/category/Business-Commercial-Aviation.aspx

 

[G4dude]

G4 is on my ignore list.. But I'm sure he said something about the company and employees having to sacrifice, for the good of the company and all.

I'm also certain he blamed everyone but the management.. probably the economy.

I agree... Now is the time to go after the golden ring. Punch harder when others are down. NJA could have obliterated the competition. Instead we are giving up market share. Flex could have been doing the same thing. I thought they were? Must have been mistaken?

Yeah, we pilots are so much smarter than all the managers at the Fracs...

 

[fischman]

Yeah, we pilots are so much smarter than all the managers at the Fracs...

I'm glad you're starting to figure this out!

Unemployment went down again. How much longer are we going to use the economy excuse for fracs not doing well? When can we blame management for making our companies a commodity? Today perhaps?

 

[G4dude]

I'm glad you're starting to figure this out!

Unemployment went down again. How much longer are we going to use the economy excuse for fracs not doing well? When can we blame management for making our companies a commodity? Today perhaps?

The main reason for the lower unemployment numbers is the fact that many more people have given up looking for a job. Look for higher unemployment numbers for January and February as seasonal employment dries up too.

 

[AftCG182]

The main reason for the lower unemployment numbers is the fact that many more people have given up looking for a job. Look for higher unemployment numbers for January and February as seasonal employment dries up too.

I'm not sure that's completely accurate. I do think that the unemployment numbers will rise a bit for January, but mostly because a lot of the jobs created in December were holiday jobs.

IMHO, Obama's got a second term coming unless Ron Paul gets the Republican nomination...

 

[Hawker dude]

Yeah, we pilots are so much smarter than all the managers at the Fracs...

Um. Dum@as&. How many managers used to be pilots? You are such a ........

 

[G4dude]

I'm not sure that's completely accurate. I do think that the unemployment numbers will rise a bit for January, but mostly because a lot of the jobs created in December were holiday jobs.

IMHO, Obama's got a second term coming unless Ron Paul gets the Republican nomination...

I would agree about Ron Paul if it weren't for his isolationist views on foreign policy, which are quite dangerous and reflect the way the Republican Party felt in the 30s, which allowed Hitler to build his military.

 

[G4dude]

Um. Dum@as&. How many managers used to be pilots? You are such a ........

You actually have an interesting point. Are there examples of pilots who have become good managers? Maybe, but I am not expert in managerial matters. I always thought Noe did a good job with NJI.

 

[fischman]

You actually have an interesting point. Are there examples of pilots who have become good managers? Maybe, but I am not expert in managerial matters. I always thought Noe did a good job with NJI.

ARE there examples of good managers? :nuts:

 

[doylehargraves]

Seems like things at flexjet are pretty boring right now, and for the last 3 years for that matter. I bet there won't be upgrades at flexjet for at least 5-7 years at the current pace we are treading water at.