Is ASA Any Good??

[Spinplate]

Whats the scoop on getting SLC after training? And how is it there? Please only reply if you work for ASA!! Thanks!

 

[Spinplate]

No replies yet huh? Damn! They must need ppl then

 

[BoilerUP]

Do yourself a favor.

Quit starting threads asking about how "good" airlines are and do a SEARCH. There is plenty of information on this board about XJT, ASA, Comair, CHQ, Colgan, Commutair, Mesa, PSA, Trans States, Eagle, and every other regional airline that is hiring out there right now.

 

[pa31350pilot]

Well, I only have an opinion as of now.....I was recently hired and offered the August 8th class.....but I would say that they are a great company so far! From the very beginning of sending in my resume, they were very promt and professional. And the interview was a great experience as well. Some of the factors that really appeal to me, is the fact that you get your full pay during training...there is no "training pay" at some reduced rate. They also give you a hotel room, which is single occupancy....you don't have to share with anyone. Plus, all of your benefits, including travel, start after 30 days. This was told to me by a captain in the training department, so that is the source of my information. Also, every pilot / crewmember I've talked to really seem to be happy for the most part. I'm excited to experience them firsthand, and I'm looking forward to becoming a part of the ASA crew.

 

[Grassstrippilot]

Hired 03/05. Held a relief line (build up line) right off the bat = no reserve. I was just awarded SLC on the 700. I'll be on reserve out there, but I'll be sitting reserve at home and not at a crashpad.

 

[180ToTheMarker]

The pilot group is great. The mgmt group just gets recycled from the same trash can every few months.

For all you ASA new hires....KNOW THY CONTRACT....lest the company violate it repeatedly.

 

[Palerider957]

Overall SLC is very senior, with a few junior people on the very bottom. If you go there, don't expect to upgrade for many, many years.

In a nutshell: Our contract, management, scheduling--SUCK. Our equipment and training is excellent, the pilot group is first rate.

Maint. has been slipping quite a bit lately, all for the almighty completion and on-time #'s.

ASA has tremendous potential, but our management is almost completely without talent, or courage. We are beholden to DAL, which is scary as they are more concerned with gay pride and diversity, then in saving the company.

Our future? Totally unknown.

 

[dime line]

NO!!!!

Its a regional

 

[scarlet]

RUN---upgrade takes 5-6 years

MANgmt. SUCKS,SCH SUCKS, the company does not know the FARs--like they say flight attendants are not crew members by def. of the FARs---that was a response by a manager from the airline..they think we are supplemental operations...they don't know what FAR they fit under..???? CRAZY

why they got back to the other guy so quickly is no one is applying..when you can go to Expressjet and up grade in a year to two and flying good euip. GO THERE...

 

[Sinca3]

Palerider,
I Couldn't have said it better!!

 

[scarlet]

dime line--not sure what you fly--

lets see we are bigger than airtran...
bigger than jetblue.....

We fly to Mexico, Canada, from coast to coast in the USA....

ummhhh and now we are considered a major due to the revenue by the DOT....ummhhh

There are no regionals anymore DIP---either national or major...

 

[Spinplate]

Do yourself a favor.

Quit starting threads asking about how "good" airlines are and do a SEARCH. There is plenty of information on this board about XJT, ASA, Comair, CHQ, Colgan, Commutair, Mesa, PSA, Trans States, Eagle, and every other regional airline that is hiring out there right now.

Your part of the problem you negative bastard! Post your own crap and dont worry about my thread!! Unless you actually want to help. I think taking people opinions into consideration is alot better than reading some fake BS on the web!

 

[BoilerUP]

NO, I am not part of the problem. I do want to help, which is why I directed you to the search function. You say you value people's opinions and take them into consideration, but you don't do a search when there are MANY threads about ASA that have been posted on this board in the last 60 days.

Recent newhires say ASA is very professional and the training and equipment is top-notch. Veterans complain about the scheduling, contract and inept management. Some people are jaded, while others are looking through rose-colored lenses. It is YOUR responsibility to seperate the chafe from the wheat and figure out what the average opinion is.

The people I know at ASA work there because they are from ATL and have a good quality of life. They might not be the best paid, and they might not upgrade in 18 months, but they are very content with their situation. I've met a few people with the good fortune to move on from ASA to bigger things recently, and I have not heard many negative things about it, other than the slow upgrade time in recent years.

I honestly do wish you luck in your job search.

 

[Spinplate]

Ok! Thank you! Ive got multiple interviews lined up over the next couple of weeks and Im just sorting out everything from bases,aircraft,pay, upgrade, etc. I know not everyone is happy at ANY airline and that is why Im getting different opinions. Pinnacle is my first interview and Mesa 2nd. Everyone says Mesa sucks, but I want the potential of the PHX base where I live so I can have an OK QOL. May get east coast or DEN for a while but its ok if I know I might be able to come back to PHX. Thanks for your comments!! Pinnacle is ok too cause I have a pad in MEM and Ive been told MEM is an easy base to snag. Who knows!??? If I was single this would be so much easier!!!!!!! DAMN!

 

[Flechas]

Out of those 3 I'd go to ASA first, just because it's a more mature company, then Pinnacle, and I wouldn't even go to MESA.

We have people from Mesa jumping ship to work for us (and I'm sure to work for other companies as well)

 

[Spinplate]

Does anyone know where I can find a route map for Pinnacle and ASA. I dont wants Deltas route map, just ASA. Thanks!

 

[Grassstrippilot]

There should be a link on Delt's site for ASA. It's something like www.delta.asa.com. Just look around and you'll find it. I think there is a route map on there.

Having been at another airline for 5 years and now at ASA, I feel I can give a pretty good opinion based on my experience with training, without it being tainted by koolaid or with rose colored glasses.

Training was well organized and laid back. Not difficult as long as you put forth some effort. The contract is lacking, but you have to keep in mind that it is an old contract. Pay is still on par or above current industry pay rates. Work rules and scheduling needs to be reworked, and I think those issues will eventually be addressed. Travel benefits are the best in the industry. The people have been great as well.

No place is a utopia. Take every thing into account, what is important to you i.e. quality of life, where you want to live, time to upgrade, type of flying, etc., then make a decision. Just be informed so you aren't surpised by crappy domicile, pay, per diem or work rules, etc.

And after you have done all that, remember that it can all change overnight.

Good luck.

 

[atrdriver]

In a nutshell: Our contract, management, scheduling--SUCK. Our equipment and training is excellent, the pilot group is first rate.

I wouldn't say that our contract sucks, it is actually pretty good overall. The problem is that management violates it all the time. I would agree with the other two though.

 

[sweptback]

ASA route map... http://www.in10sity.net/flashdb/

 

[Spinplate]

Thx guys!! Good info so far!! How about SLC as a base? Does everyone get ATL at first?