Ty Webb
Hostage to Fortune
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For me, it comes down to basics:
The Israelis, given their overwhelming strength and nuclear capability, could rule the Middle East. They don't want to- all they want is to be left in peace in their own country. I shudder to think what would happen if it were the Arabs with the nuclear capability . .. .
The Palestinians want a country. They need one, and they will get one, but they will not get it by bombing Israeli women and children. Unfortunately, their leaders and supposed "holy men" have been inciting them for years to kill Israelis, and they have not, as a people, rejected this insane babble.
Three years ago, before the suicide bombings, the Israelis offered them 97% of the land they wanted. Sadly, Arafat, the jackass, turned it down and walked away and started the Intifada, which has resulted in the deaths of several thousand of his own people, and hundreds of Israelis.
Because of these past two years of terrorism, the Palestinians will never have a deal offered to them as good as what what was offered them before they began the Intifada, because the Israelis will now need more of a buffer from these murderous idiots.
The Palestinian people need to tell their leaders that they do not accept the terror and bloodshed, and they must insist on a peaceful resolution. That is the only way they will get their country. Unfortunately, they are either unwilling or unable to do so.
By the way, don't underestimate the benefit of the Israelis in the Middle East; if it weren't for them, Iraq would have nuclear weapons. In 1981, our friends, the French (hmmph!) were building a nuclear reactor for the Iraqis.
The Israelis flew in and bombed the reactor project to prevent the Iraqis from obtaining nuclear weapons. The rest of the world condemned the Israelis for it (no one louder than the French) . . . . but if they hadn't done it- the Gulf War and the world today would be a very different place.
Anyway, lively, interesting debate . . . .
The Israelis, given their overwhelming strength and nuclear capability, could rule the Middle East. They don't want to- all they want is to be left in peace in their own country. I shudder to think what would happen if it were the Arabs with the nuclear capability . .. .
The Palestinians want a country. They need one, and they will get one, but they will not get it by bombing Israeli women and children. Unfortunately, their leaders and supposed "holy men" have been inciting them for years to kill Israelis, and they have not, as a people, rejected this insane babble.
Three years ago, before the suicide bombings, the Israelis offered them 97% of the land they wanted. Sadly, Arafat, the jackass, turned it down and walked away and started the Intifada, which has resulted in the deaths of several thousand of his own people, and hundreds of Israelis.
Because of these past two years of terrorism, the Palestinians will never have a deal offered to them as good as what what was offered them before they began the Intifada, because the Israelis will now need more of a buffer from these murderous idiots.
The Palestinian people need to tell their leaders that they do not accept the terror and bloodshed, and they must insist on a peaceful resolution. That is the only way they will get their country. Unfortunately, they are either unwilling or unable to do so.
By the way, don't underestimate the benefit of the Israelis in the Middle East; if it weren't for them, Iraq would have nuclear weapons. In 1981, our friends, the French (hmmph!) were building a nuclear reactor for the Iraqis.
The Israelis flew in and bombed the reactor project to prevent the Iraqis from obtaining nuclear weapons. The rest of the world condemned the Israelis for it (no one louder than the French) . . . . but if they hadn't done it- the Gulf War and the world today would be a very different place.
Anyway, lively, interesting debate . . . .
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