iPad as an EFB

[Bleeds On]

Waiting for Jepp to get the enroute chart feature. Will then likely replace the international paper. Jepp allows 4 iPads to use one Jeppview account.
For GPS info, Foreflight advises use of an external Bluetooth GPS.
Oh yeah, don't leave the iPad in the hot plane, in the sun, and expect it to work. But, if you put in in the shade for a couple minutes it will be fine. Happened one time. Otherwise it's worked flawless since June.

 

[JJET44]

How much is Jepps charging for this US suscription these day? If I remember correctly it use to be about $1100.00 to include paper enroute and vol #1.

pm me if you don't want to respond here.

 

[spxdriver]

How much is Jepps charging for this US suscription these day? If I remember correctly it use to be about $1100.00 to include paper enroute and vol #1.

pm me if you don't want to respond here.

It's no secret what Jeppesen charges. Just go here, and select the coverages that you are interested in, and see the price.

 

[JJET44]

JEPPVIEW TC APP

Does the Jeppview TC app store charts? Someone mentioned that it took them seven hours to download the app and I'm assuming because it does.
I'm mostly concerned if we have an emergency enroute and need to land at an airport that we didn't plan on. Will I be able to pull up those charts at FL350?

 

[BoilerUP]

All charts used by Jepp Mobile TC are on the iPad memory, yes.

7 hours? No frigging way - updates take like 15 minutes with Jepp Mobile TC on the iPad and the initial app didn't take much more than that IIRC.

 

[svcta]

My jepp update has never taken more than 5 min over wifi. I would guess 10 maybe 15 over 3g. I only keep N. America on my ipad, to, but even still, nothing would cause download times outside of minutes.

And, yes, you can access any chart en route straight from the device.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

JEPPVIEW TC APP

Does the Jeppview TC app store charts? Someone mentioned that it took them seven hours to download the app and I'm assuming because it does.
I'm mostly concerned if we have an emergency enroute and need to land at an airport that we didn't plan on. Will I be able to pull up those charts at FL350?

The first few week or the app was avail there was delays loading the initial app, just due to volume (according to Jepp) Mine took a few days before it was even able to connect long enough to get everything, then I think it took all night?

Since then we have loaded 3-4 more iPads worth of Jepps with no delays, and yes...revisions usually take approx. 5 mins over wifi.

 

[JJET44]

The first few week or the app was avail there was delays loading the initial app, just due to volume (according to Jepp) Mine took a few days before it was even able to connect long enough to get everything, then I think it took all night?

Since then we have loaded 3-4 more iPads worth of Jepps with no delays, and yes...revisions usually take approx. 5 mins over wifi.

Okay. I just remember someone on here saying that it took him seven hours in his hotel room to load the initial app.

 

[can99]

From a super slow connection in India it takes only about 5-10 minutes to download the charts for China, Australia, India, Middle East and South East Asia... its about 300 mb update and it doesnt hang and screw up like it does on our efbs using jeppview and flitestar. The initial download was really quick as the actual APP program isnt that big it seems.

Just a pity it doesnt yet have enroute charts and the text pages in the ipad app.

I love the interface, its so much easier than on the Jeppview ...just miss the gps connectivity.

 

[Bleeds On]

Okay. I just remember someone on here saying that it took him seven hours in his hotel room to load the initial app.

That's Foreflight and they've greatly improved download speed, relative to your connection. Initial app download takes second. The database is about 4GB. But it has more than just the approach plates like Jeppview has. Still waiting for Jepp to add their enroute charts, etc.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Okay. I just remember someone on here saying that it took him seven hours in his hotel room to load the initial app.

I believe it with a slow connection and early on in the app.

Its still worth the $499 for portable and easy jepps....the question will be will Jepp totally dik it up like they did with Jeppview. I hope not.

 

[motopilot404]

I use the iPad with Jepp as a back-up to our EFB's that are hard wired in our G-IV. I used to print back up plates for international destinations because I don't trust our CMA-1100 which are the biggest POS efb's I've ever used. I do think it's a little crappy that Jepp charges a full site key for the iPad when you can only use terminal charts though. I wanted to purchase a fifth key and they wanted two grand for it

 

[gulfstreameric]

But the one question remains
is the iPad FAA approved ??
Can I legally take it in the cockpit and legally use it for IFR navigation ?

A simple yes or no with the appropriate link is sufficient.

Tx

 

[BoilerUP]

There is no such thing as "FAA approved" for Part 91 operations with an EFB - reference AC91-78.

Yes, you can take an iPad into the cockpit and use it for IFR navigation.

 

[JJET44]

There is no such thing as "FAA approved" for Part 91 operations with an EFB - reference AC91-78.

Yes, you can take an iPad into the cockpit and use it for IFR navigation.

Boiler is right.

I talked with my local FSDO about this just to make completly sure and they said the same thing and then sent me the -78. They are hands off with this.

 

[JJET44]

Has anyone heard anything more about the release date for the Ipad2?
Feb 1 has come and gone!

 

[Bleeds On]

Yes, you can take an iPad into the cockpit and use it for IFR navigation.

Just to clarify Boiler's post, you cannot use the ipad's built-in GPS to replace onboard navigational equipment such as your FMS, GPS, etc. You can, however, use the electronic display of charts to replace paper, under straight Part 91. I'm hearing more and more that 135 operators are getting FSDO approval, though.

I'm still hearing an early Feb announcement of ipad2 and March-April deliveries.

 

[Bleeds On]

Has anyone heard anything more about the release date for the Ipad2?
Feb 1 has come and gone!

March 2. And Foreflight has geo-referenced plates now and the ability to dim the unit until it's nearly black. This thing just keeps getting better.

 

[JJET44]

Hey Bleeds,

Not that I don't believe you but do you have the announcement?
I've been waiting for this. Meanwhile i'll google it again.
THX
jjet

 

[JJET44]

Hey Bleeds,

Not that I don't believe you but do you have the announcement?
I've been waiting for this. Meanwhile i'll google it again.
THX
jjet

Nevermind, found it!


http://osxdaily.com/2011/02/22/ipad-2-release-date-is-march-2/

 

[waddawurld]

Anybody using the Ram Mount?

 

[svcta]

Anybody using the Ram Mount?

For the first time just last night. It was exhilarating.

 

[matthewjohn]

Anybody using the Ram Mount?

We are looking at the 3 of the rams: the knee board (not my favorite), cup holder one (rap-299-2-ap8u), and my best pick thus far, the suction cup unit used by Quantas and Alaska (the base is main difference in this and advertized single suction unit) which is a triple base (ram-333-224-1U)

 

[semperfido]

do they have any yoke mounting devices? I've just been placing mine on the side and holding it when I want to look at it. Don't really need the charting /gps features as the aircraft has those already, but it would be nice to mount the ipad2.

 

[waddawurld]

The only clamp type yoke mount won't fit on pedestal yokes-- the clamp is too small (I believe its for light a/c with small diameter yoke rails that go into the control panel), so we're left with the mount that has the 2 round bases with hole patterns(RAM-B-101U)-- but I believe that would require permanently attaching 1 of the round bases-- something I'm not willing to do...

 

[matthewjohn]

for anyone that has an iPad or ordered an iPad2 - what HD memory size do you have and do you actually need to run Jepp, foreflight, etc. (no movies, pics, stuff like that)

 

[Gulfstream 200]

for anyone that has an iPad or ordered an iPad2 - what HD memory size do you have and do you actually need to run Jepp, foreflight, etc. (no movies, pics, stuff like that)

You wont even come near filling up the 16GB original ipad with such apps.

The only thing that will take up memory is if you download movies.

 

[svcta]

I'm running out of things to do with my 16G ipad and it still has 12G available. I have N. American Jepp coverage on it and I store foreflight charts as required. I could download all of them and still have tons of room left, I believe. I just don't use foreflight much. I don't use it for music, though, which is the biggest hog (along with movies).

 

[OUPilot]

What is everyone using for performance numbers and weight and balance? It is not possible to always have wifi or Internet to connect to a server.

 

[svcta]

There are references to the advantages of 3G VS. WiFi only ipads in this thread. You stumbled across one of those advantages. Just bite the bullet and get the 3G version, in my opinion. You're losing one of the key functionalities of the ipad if you lack the GPS and the capability of getting data between WiFi availability. for $15/mo it's worth it.