Interesting possibility for CMR and ASA

[ATR-DRIVR]

The thing here is look at the management ranks at ASA/CMR. Do you think they could really manage an airline??? On their own??
The ASA side any way.

 

[sleepy]

The thing here is look at the management ranks at ASA/CMR. Do you think they could really manage an airline??? On their own??
The ASA side any way.

ASA management, no. Comair management, yes.

I would like to see DAL combine ASA and Comair into one airline under Comair management, then spin us off before the DAL Ch 11 happens. Once the Bankruptcy judge has had his or her way with the DAL PWA, the spun-off ASA/Comair Company would be free to grow as an LLC, aquire larger aircraft, and better compete with the other LLCs in the domestic market.

As for DAL, who cares what happens to them, it is everybody for themselves these days. They had their chance with onelist, and they blew it. The last thing we want at ASA and Comair is to still be WO's when DAL finally goes under. Look what has happened to those WO's at the hands of the USAir pilots and ALPA. As a seperate company, there is less of a chance for the DAL pilots to mess with us.

 

[KingAirKiddo]

The thing here is look at the management ranks at ASA/CMR. Do you think they could really manage an airline??? On their own??
The ASA side any way.

Our boys at Comair know how to run an airline, particularly when "third party" management types in Atlanta stay out of the way.

 

[michael707767]

Remember when AirTran (a small airline with about five aircraft) bought the much larger ValueJet. I could see ASA and Comair being able to aquire a much larger DAL if DAL is in Ch 11 bankruptcy.

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Actually, ValuJet aquired AirTran. The AirTran name was kept, but it was ValuJet doing the buying.

 

[jws717]

I think an IPO on song would be a very intersting business move ( but suicidal ) , i also consider it almost impossible. One other interesting move no one ever seems to consider since it would be like desegragation is dumping the old md80s and 737s and incorperating the Delta owned regionals into main line. The fuel efficiency on the crj should out weigh paying crj guys delta pay. Everyone would be happy. ( yea right )

 

[General Lee]

Grinstein just stated at our recent CVG "town hall meeting" that Song would probably expand, and get 17 more 757s(from mainline). He also stated that flying on RJs for longer than 2.5 hours was "Crummy" (he said that) and that he didn't agree with the recent expansion of RJs. He said that he was re-evaluating the SLC hub and thought is was wrong to move so many mainline jets out and RJs in. Maybe he was just saying that to get us to take 30% pay cuts......But maybe he believes it--and his plan is now due in AUG he says.....doubtful Song is going anywhere. (Profitable last quarter too)

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[FlyComAirJets]

Sounds like the perfect time to spin Song off. One profitable quarter (OK it was Spring Break) is just the impeccable track record they need.

 

[KingAirKiddo]

Grinstein just stated at our recent CVG "town hall meeting" that Song would probably expand, and get 17 more 757s(from mainline). He also stated that flying on RJs for longer than 2.5 hours was "Crummy" (he said that) and that he didn't agree with the recent expansion of RJs.

(I agree. Flying on RJ's for longer than 2.5 hours IS crummy. What in the world is Delta marketing thinking? We (at ComASA) should be providing frequency to existing markets and exploring new markets that are within a two hour flight of the hubs, in my humble opinion. I don't really think too many people at ComASA would disagree.)



He said that he was re-evaluating the SLC hub and thought is was wrong to move so many mainline jets out and RJs in. Maybe he was just saying that to get us to take 30% pay cuts......But maybe he believes it--and his plan is now due in AUG he says.....doubtful Song is going anywhere. (Profitable last quarter too)

(Our biggest complaint is the portfolio concept which is allowing contract carriers to grow at the expense of BOTH mainline and its wholly-owned subsidiaries. All flying for DAL should be done by Delta and the wholly-owned subsidiaries--including furloughed Delta pilots hired onto the bottom of our respective lists until they are able to return to Delta.)

Bye Bye--General Lee