Interesting JBLU review...

[Redtails]

In reference to the cnn article: 2005 is still a ways off until the first Emb-190 hits the line. Something can be said, however, that this 100-seat jet is no RJ. Think of the markets being produced today by the Eagles and Pinnacles where they are limited by scope clauses and the likes with their 70 seats. If you bring in a 100-seat jet to compete on those markets and drive down the prices, but still make money with those seats being full, you'll have an advantage that many carriers with scope clauses won't enjoy. Airtran flies 117-seat aircraft and makes money. They are limited with their range with the B-717. This Emb-190 has a 2500nm range, almost coast-coast, the opportunities are countless. Additionally, the Long Beach, CA, airport limits slots to 41 for airline types-- but has no limits on the number of RJs flying into LGB, this will also open up opportunities on the West Coast for JBLU.

 

[trainerjet]

Something can be said, however, that this 100-seat jet is no RJ.

Additionally, the Long Beach, CA, airport limits slots to 41 for airline types-- but has no limits on the number of RJs flying into LGB, this will also open up opportunities on the West Coast for JBLU.

So, which is it? I don't think you can argue in one sentence that it is "no RJ", then turn around and talk of the unlimited slots for "RJs flying into LGB" that will "open up opportunities on the West Coast for JBLU".

 

[dgs]

The EMB-190 is significantly larger than an RJ. With it's larger cabin and larger seats if feels more like a full size airliner. However, the cutoff for slots at LGB is 100 seats. There is no contradiction here. The beauty of this airplane is that it takes the best from both worlds.

 

[G4G5]

I agree this is the next wave of RJ's that will revolutionize the 70-110 seat aircraft. This is going to kick the stuffing out of the CRJ's

I just hope it does what they promise.

 

[Blue Dude]

The EMB-190 is significantly larger than an RJ. With it's larger cabin and larger seats if feels more like a full size airliner. However, the cutoff for slots at LGB is 100 seats. There is no contradiction here. The beauty of this airplane is that it takes the best from both worlds.

I thought the LGB slots were determined by weight, not seats. And the EMB-190 is over the weight limit. Even if the -190 qualified, there are RJ slots at LGB, too, they're just not all in use yet. There's no unlimited growth there, the NIMBY's will see to that.

 

[SpeedBird]

LGB limits for air carriers is 41 slots/day. Air carriers are defined as scheduled part 121/135 operators flying aircraft weighing 75,000 lbs, or greater. "Commuter" carriers can operate 25 flights/day, and are defined the same as air carriers, with the exception that they must use aircraft weighing less than 75,000lbs. The EMB-190 will not meet this weight requirement (approx. 100,000 lbs) and will be classified as an "air carrier" aircraft, thus subject to the 41 slot/day restriction.

Here is the link for more information:

http://www.lgb.org/content/noiseordinance.htm

 

[G4G5]

Skirt
"I don't know the flight pattern into LGB, but if it is anything like the creative flow pattern JB negotiated for JFK, there will be no delays."

Can someone explain this to me?

 

[dgs]

The EMB-190 is significantly larger than an RJ. With it's larger cabin and larger seats if feels more like a full size airliner. However, the cutoff for slots at LGB is 100 seats. There is no contradiction here. The beauty of this airplane is that it takes the best from both worlds.

I may have misunderstood something that our COO said at a meeting with our crewmembers on this topic. I'll go back and review the tape. I still think "The beauty of this airplane is that it takes the best from both worlds." However, I need to research more about how the EMB-190 will fit at LGB.