Innovative ways to save money...

[Quimby]

I dont use the brakes.....in my Hyundai or my Grumman. Forget that concept of getting on the brakes to assure they are there and the fact that early steady braking is best for brake life...I dont need any of that. Its my runway I will use it all. I fly a big airplane.

I'm all about saving....you should see the fuel savings program I created for our department.

I got a gold star from my chief pilot.

Please tell me you don't do this at "busy" airports.

Forget it, I already know the answer. You're not kidding, are you?

So if you're landing north at DEN, on 35L, you're gonna roll to the end? Only to taxi 2.5 miles back to your FBO?

Never mind that 767 behind that might go around. You're a Gulfstream driver!

 

[UnstableAviator]

The cheapest descent isn't the steepest descent.

Time and traffic permitting, the nice slow 180kt, engine idle, long distance glide is the ultimate fuel saver. All those miles covered, for all that time, at taxi fuel burns.

 

[MaxTorque]

At some point, doesn't the additional time on the airframe eat some of the fuel savings?

MT

 

[rice]

Please tell me you don't do this at "busy" airports.

Forget it, I already know the answer. You're not kidding, are you?

So if you're landing north at DEN, on 35L, you're gonna roll to the end? Only to taxi 2.5 miles back to your FBO?

Never mind that 767 behind that might go around. You're a Gulfstream driver!

I think you missed G200's standard sarcasm.

 

[jet2work]

Ohhh. I almost forgot. You and your co-pilot can share a hotel room. If you are single pilot, maybe you can double up with one of the passengers. I always bring my sleeping bag and stay in the plane and eat cabin stock.

Look what I've started.......:bomb:

 

[Quimby]

I think you missed G200's standard sarcasm.

I hope that's the case.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Please tell me you don't do this at "busy" airports.

Forget it, I already know the answer. You're not kidding, are you?

So if you're landing north at DEN, on 35L, you're gonna roll to the end? Only to taxi 2.5 miles back to your FBO?

Never mind that 767 behind that might go around. You're a Gulfstream driver!

DEN? 35L?

Son, we fly this mighty Grumman so we dont have to mix it up with the airline people....

Its been said many times in corporate aviation, by some of the top pilots in the industry...."It's my runway and I will use it all"

Gotta save the bosses brakes.

 

[rice]

DEN? 35L?

Son, we fly this mighty Grumman so we dont have to mix it up with the airline people....

Its been said many times in corporate aviation, by some of the top pilots in the industry...."It's my runway and I will use it all"

Gotta save the bosses brakes.

See what happens when I try to help?????
G, you're such a ball buster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:beer:

 

[jet2work]

DEN? 35L?

Son, we fly this mighty Grumman so we dont have to mix it up with the airline people....

Its been said many times in corporate aviation, by some of the top pilots in the industry...."It's my runway and I will use it all"

Gotta save the bosses brakes.

I think at airline indoc they outta teach those guys, when the aircraft preceeding you on arrival prefaces his callsign with "Gulfstream" immediately slow to final approach speed and be prepared to go around.

Example:

"Tower, Gulfstream 18UP, wicha, just outside da marker."

Airline Crew SOP Standard Call Out"

PF "Flaps Landing - Speed Set Vref."

PNF "Flaps selected landing, speed set XXX (KIAS). Standing by to go around."

If these airlines would just adhere to this, the world would be a much nicer place.

 

[bizjet800]

Ohhh. I almost forgot. You and your co-pilot can share a hotel room. If you are single pilot, maybe you can double up with one of the passengers. I always bring my sleeping bag and stay in the plane and eat cabin stock.

Look what I've started.......:bomb:

If you time it right, you can stay at the FBO's crew lounge for free! And if they have a shower, you are good to go! And that's not to mention the free candies or cookies that can substitute for one meal a day.

 

[bizjet800]

At some point, doesn't the additional time on the airframe eat some of the fuel savings?

MT

That's true for engines with an MSP type program like on the TFE 731s. But on Gulfstreams, at least the old Twos and Threes, they're on calender programs so there's no per hour charge.

We have found that flying LRC (.26 AOA) is the most economical under all circumstances--head winds or tailwinds. We might put more time on the airframe and engines by flying slower, but that will end up paying the owner a little more and giving the oil companies a little less. As I said, this equation changes when you're on an MSP program.

 

[jet2work]

If you time it right, you can stay at the FBO's crew lounge for free! And if they have a shower, you are good to go! And that's not to mention the free candies or cookies that can substitute for one meal a day.

Don't forget to keep the crew car out overnight. Rental cars are for suckers.:laugh: If they have one of those obnoxious 2 hour limit policies, tell them it broke down and you had to call AAA, and how they're lucky your not seeking reimbursment for your time. A strong offense is the best defense.:uzi:

 

[Fly91]

Why bother saving them money....you'll never see an appreciation bonus check at the end of the year "LOL", because there's no way to prove you saved anything. Unless you do the exact same routes, cities and hotels each year. Just fly and don't spend money foolishly, thats the best you can do.

Our dispatcher gets us "pretty much" the best hotels that include breakfast, rental cars at almost every RON and catering on busy days for the crew when we don't have to time to hit a restaurant so we don't starve.......I'm gonna leave well-enough alone at my company.

 

[NCherches]

...wow...

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Why bother saving them money....you'll never see an appreciation bonus check at the end of the year "LOL",

The vast majority of corp pilots I know get bonuses, some easily in the 25-50K range.

While I cant speak for others, I do know that my boss knows damn well how much money he is "saving" by our efforts with negotiatiing fuel, hangar leases, managing general expenses etc....I know this as he tells he us exactly that! - and happens to hand out nice cash bonuses in appreciation.

Its all a game. These are largely luxury toys..but most rich people I have flown take asset management very serious. They look at you as not only flying their families safe, but as managing their money. Thats what they want on your mind all the time.

And I don't mind putting in a decent effort to save money if I get some kind of benefit of it also (A good job, good bonus, etc) If my boss didnt appreciate it and show he did, I'd go work hard for someone else..