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DAL/ASA flow

ASA is hiring Delta furloughees and allowing them to keep their
mainline seniority. They are still going to the bottom of the seniority list here at ASA.

601Pilot
 
asa placing ads

I know members have been running this issue into the ground in other threads, but I'm getting frustrated. This ad was posted on planejobs within the past 96 hours (ASA probably posted it on Monday). Maybe ASA has asked planejobs.com to stop running this ad and they havent gotten around to getting it out of the system..who knows. What the heck is ASA doing? Are they interview or accepting applications or not. I thought the pool was overflowing from last year. Maybe some of the ASA pilots on here can shed some insight.




Title: Pilots

Company: ATLANTIC SOUTHEAST AIRLINES
Location: Various
Job Type: Full-time Employment
Type: Permanent

Requirements: Total time: 1200 hours Multi-engine: 200 hours A current aviation job At least 100 hours currency in the last 6 months Desired is FAR 121/135 experience.



Contact Information:

[email protected]
Phone: 404-766-1400 Fax: 404-763-8397
ATLANTIC SOUTHEAST AIRLINES



Preferred Response Method:
How to apply: Atlantic Southeast Airlines Attn: Pilot Recruiting 100 Hartsfield Center Pkwy, Suite 300 Atlanta, GA 30354 Fax: 404-763-8397 [email protected] Recruiting Office: 404-766-1400
 
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I've seen these automatic job postings before. In a couple of days, you will find it removed. As for hiring, I think it will be a while. Had an hour long discussion with the Senior Vice Pres of Flight Operations a couple of weeks ago, and he was quite candid with us.

1) EMB-120's gone in ATL by June.
2) EMB-120's gone in DFW by August.

This leaves about 131 surplus pilots due to the fact that the CRJ deliveries are not going to keep pace with the retirements of the EMB's. We asked of furloughs. He said absolutely no chance. " I need to furlough pilots for more than 10 months in order for it to save any money, and I will need all of them within that time."

I know it goes against the current DAL PWA, but it was mentioned that ASA is interested in additional CRJ-700's and has no interest in the CRJ-900 (quoted as being a "dog").

As for interviewing, the best explaination I've heard comes from the fact that ASA would like to have a ready available pool for last minute changes. Realizing that some qualified pilots are not going to sit in the ASA pool for a year means that new fish need to be added every now and then.
 
Yeah that makes sense ASAPuppy.......

so basically, ASA's quietly interviewing pilots on an as needed basis just to keep the level of the pool the same in the event something comes up where they need pilots at a moments notice? I can understand qualified pilots leaving the pool if they're offered a job from another airline.

I'm new to www.planejobs.com. I'm wondering if just because a specific airline is a subscriber to planejobs, their server automatically posts new ads on a regular basis, weather or not the airline requested the new ad or not. Thats kind of crummy because it makes us think that these companies are really needing pilots and they intentionally posted the ad (by a real person).

Thanks for the reply!!
 
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Yes, I had to jump on here. I just wanted to say that I am greatful that ASA has hired some Delta furloughs, and even though it is a small number (13 or so), it is widely known that you have offered help. There was an article in the last ATL Council 44 Roar magazine that said your airline, and not Comair, has helped. About 4500 Delta pilots in ATL got copies, and I am sure they noted that. This will not go on the way side, and when we start to hire again someday in the future, the interviewers will know about your help, and hopefully there will be some sort of preferential hiring. (People like me will get the word out)

Bye Bye--General Lee:)
 
If I may say so, I think it rather silly that we hired anyone off the street with DAL guys on furlough. I think we should all be working to "keep it in the family."

I'm sure that when we resume hiring, we'll hire more DAL guys. However, I hope a little comes our way when things turn around.
 
ATL EMB crews finishing jet training?

ASApuppy, or anyone in training or knowledgeable, know if the ATL EMB crews are still in retraining, or are they finished ? And has anyone heard when the DFW crews will start retraining?

Thanks.
 
The ATL displacements are not yet done. The final people will have new position awards on the May Awards. These awards should be out sometime this week. They will then have to go to training, which will probably take at least two months or more.

The DFW crews are currently slowly being retrained, but our base will be active at least thru August. Some moreof the ATL guys were recently displaced out to DFW effective May 1st. If the retirements stay on schedule (a very big if) then the last of the DFW EM2 crews should go to training around the end of August begining of September. This will have them trained aruond the end of October.

That all assumes of course that the retirements stay on schedule. We'll see. Check back mid summer to see how we are doing.
 
I was at FSI today and we (ASA) are definetly interviewing for the pool. They were doing 6 a day. They were just regular applicants, not from any special program.

We are short on pilots in some areas, but training is backed up due to the retraining of E-120 pilots. The E-120 will be out of ATL on May 3rd.

There is talk of a new aircraft type to replace the CR7. They are looking at the B-717 and A-319. For BGen Lee, I know all about your scope, but that is what they are looking at. Could get interesting.
 
sleepy said:

They are looking at the B-717 and A-319. For BGen Lee, I know all about your scope, but that is what they are looking at. Could get interesting.

"They" being who??? The A319 has been a running vrew room joke for quite some time.
 
What a tool.

717's or A319's. Yeah, right.

Besides, it'd do us all better to have them on the mainline property than on ours anyway.
 
Sleepy,

No, I am not getting into a pissing contest with you. I know people are saying a lot of things, and nothing is certain. But, you as well as I know that our PWA will not allow anything other than the 57 70 seaters for DCI---unless something is negotiated. I doubt that with 1060 pilots out on the street, any DCI carrier will get anything other than the 57 heavy RJ's. But, you have an advantage over your Comair brothers when it comes to eventually flying something bigger than the 70 seater in the Delta family. Our VP of Flt Ops--Joe Kolshack---is said to be very receptive to our guys asking about mainline CRJ70's for the furloughs. He said that they really would like more. I think Dalpa could negotiate a reasonable rate that Delta would agree to. We know that we aren't getting any new aircraft for a couple years, but have 1060 guys out. The RJ's are the only way to help them get back in the cockpit. The A318/A319 rumor is a good one because Fred Reid brought the A320 and A340 to Lufthansa when he headed that corporation. But, I have heard that the 737-600 is the leading candidate because Delta wants to have one common type rating for the 737-600, 737-800, 757/767 (with new modified cockpits at $2mil each), 767-400, and 777. That would save a lot on training, and the FAA has supposedly already approved it for Delta. That is all I have on that. But remember Sleepy---you are closer than you think to that Delta 757 if you ever want to go fly it---that is for sure.

Bye Bye---General Lee:cool: :rolleyes:
 
Re: What a tool.

sabreliner said:
717's or A319's. Yeah, right.

Besides, it'd do us all better to have them on the mainline property than on ours anyway.

Why, you don't think there will be any mainline jobs left that are any better do you?

I'm am just passing along information from several well placed and independent sources from the GO and the union. Maybe it won't happen, who knows. Remember, a bird in hand......
 
General Lee said:
Sleepy,

No, I am not getting into a pissing contest with you. I know people are saying a lot of things, and nothing is certain. But, you as well as I know that our PWA will not allow anything other than the 57 70 seaters for DCI---unless something is negotiated. I doubt that with 1060 pilots out on the street, any DCI carrier will get anything other than the 57 heavy RJ's. But, you have an advantage over your Comair brothers when it comes to eventually flying something bigger than the 70 seater in the Delta family. Our VP of Flt Ops--Joe Kolshack---is said to be very receptive to our guys asking about mainline CRJ70's for the furloughs. He said that they really would like more. I think Dalpa could negotiate a reasonable rate that Delta would agree to. We know that we aren't getting any new aircraft for a couple years, but have 1060 guys out. The RJ's are the only way to help them get back in the cockpit. The A318/A319 rumor is a good one because Fred Reid brought the A320 and A340 to Lufthansa when he headed that corporation. But, I have heard that the 737-600 is the leading candidate because Delta wants to have one common type rating for the 737-600, 737-800, 757/767 (with new modified cockpits at $2mil each), 767-400, and 777. That would save a lot on training, and the FAA has supposedly already approved it for Delta. That is all I have on that. But remember Sleepy---you are closer than you think to that Delta 757 if you ever want to go fly it---that is for sure.

Bye Bye---General Lee:cool: :rolleyes:

I hear you MGen Lee, and I am not trying to stir the pot. I have gotten this info from several different (good) sources over the last few weeks, and would not pass it along if it was just something I heard in the lounge. I don't know what the future holds, but I know that I (and most ASA pilots for that matter) will never see a DAL 757, hell, your furloughed guys won't even be back for several years. Then there will be all of the pilots from the liquidated U and AAA ahead of us in line. Oh, and all of the Desert Storm II vets.
 

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