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[FlyingMoose]

Its whatever the managment sells to the POI, and what the POI will consider as in compliance, or not.

Becuase of all the grey area, it then rests in the latter, the POI. The only thing that is not in question usualy, is the rest required, either reduced or normal, everything else is up to whatever looks right to certian individuals, ie, POI.

Its sad, but it is the fact from my experience, under 135 and 121(Supplemental).

I'll agree with your last statement, and most people that have been in aviation for any considerable time have most likely experienced the same.

That being said, the fact is it is not a grey area, it is just one of the areas that for some reason a lot of people can't, don't or "won't" understand. The FAA and the FAR's are very clear (they could be written better, but still clear) on the rest issue.

It really comes down to what the individual pilot or group of pilots are willing to do or what they are willing to tolerate, not the POI's opinion. Another thing people can't seem to grasp is what authority the POI has and what his role is, He is an inspector, not a regulator. The FAA has been very clear on this matter as well, POI's do not have the authority to interpret or make regulations, their role is to inspect and insure compliance to the regs.

Your second point regarding "required rest" kind of plays into to my arguement. That is the main issue with being "on-call", any period of time you are on-call does not qualify as a "rest period".

None of us are niave enough here to not realize that plenty of operations regularly and by design are not in complaince with these rules and plenty of pilots accept assignments when they will be in violation of the current rest requirements. The sad fact is things usually don't get changed or enforced until people or property are lost.

We all know that beyond the most important principle of safety, we as pilots have to look out for our own livelyhood. The least little incident or accident can open the door to all this being looked at (regardless of it is fatigue related or anyhting you had direct control over). The FAA will hold the pilots ultimately responsible. You won't get far with the "but my Chief Pilot said our POI said it was legal" arguement.

For what it is worth, for all those that are working under similar conditions. See if your POI will give you a signed statement as to the legality of you being "on-call" and in rest at the same time; I'm betting it won't happen.