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I'm looking for a little more info on fedex if anyone has the time. I know that they are one of the best jobs out there, I would just like to educate myself a little more before taking the next step. (I have pored over this board, but can't find these specifics)

I've heard about hub turns and that a commuting newbie is likely to get lines with these after getting off reserve. Is the duty from Mon AM to Sat PM (or
Sun AM). I guess if you're wanting to get back home, you might be able to fudge those times a little, depending on flights to and from your home? Basically how many days and nights can you expect to be gone? Are these lines typical for newbies in the 72 and the 10? What types of cities are these likely?

What about vacation accrual and after how many years to you get it? What about sick days?

Health bennies for out of MEM folks?

Pension and retirement? (I know it's kick ass, but haven't heard any specifics)

Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance for the info.
 
Yahoo-

The underlining question I get from your post is "How easy or hard is it to commute as a new hire?" If that is your question then I would have to say it is really easy to commute and work your schedule as a new hire (unless you live somewhere out in the boonies). As a new hire a typical reserve schedule is 15 days on, 13 off during a 4 week bid month. Those 15 days could one big block, an 8 & 7 day block or even a 5,5,&5 day block. There is a lot of flexiblity.

FedEx probably has the best vacation system in the industry. Years 1-5 you get 15 days (1 (8)day block, 1 (7)day block. Each 1 week vacation really turns out to 3 weeks off (or more) if you bid your schedule right, its very easy.

Each calendar year your sick bank gets 72 hrs of credit which basically equates to 1 6hr trip a month. Any unused sick time for the year gets thrown into long term disablility account, just in case.

As far as medical goes it really depends on where you live in the country...some places its really good and other cities not so good. I live in a pretty big cit and have POS healthcare which is REALLY good.

Pension and retirement...by the time I retire (2030) it will all be redone, revamped, regulation will be rewritten and the company could be who knows where. All I know is that it is OK now but there is plenty of room for improvement.

Bottom line is that FedEx is a young financially secure company with a bright future ahead that provides good benefits, fare wages (could be better) and excellent job security, I'm very lucky to be where I am today:)

Hope this helps.
 
...and if you try some searches in this forum, you'll learn all (or more) than you want to know. There have been HUGE threads on this subject.

BTW, I commute, and it has been manageable.
 
Huck/PT,


Either of you know how commuting from San Diego is. I'm starting next month and am addicted to SoCal. Any guesses on how long, based on current hiring, to get to LAX?

Thanks guys!!
 
New FDX Guy-

SAN is commutable, there are 2 Airbus flights a day to MEM...one in the morning and one in the evening. The Airbus has the most jumpseats available, 4 in the back and 2 upfront...I think.

I assume you are still in training or just about to start. If we continue to hire at the current pace I'd guess that you could hold LA somewhere between the 4-6 year time frame...that is IF the base is still open then. System Chief Pilot JL said himself that if it was up to him he would shut the base down right now.

Management is not growing the LAX base and on the last couple of bids it has gone relatively senior. The flying in LA has gone downhill (lots of out-n-backs) so there is a chance that it might go junior on the next bid closing on the 31st. Who knows, we'll just have to wait and see.
 
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How junior is the Anchorage base?

Any words on commuting, health care, etc, in Anchorage?

Thanks!
 
My two cents on LAX. I think as FedEx grows in Asia-Pacific, they are going to need a MD-11 pilot base in LAX (or convert Subic to MD-10s to have MD-11 pilots already in theatre). It takes over two days to deadhead crews from MEM or ANC to anywhere in the Pacific. From LAX, there are direct flights to HKG, SIN, NRT, TPE, KIX, etc. I think as a LAX F/Os will get a majority of the RFO legs. Until they figure how LAX fits in the system, I think the lines will continue to be a lot of domestic out-and-backs, mixed with a bit of HNL and international trips. Even though JL wants it closed, I can't see them closing it right now. But I have been wrong before.

LAX Info: Only a MD-11 base. You cover three bases LAX, ONT, and BUR. Although we NEVER fly into BUR on the -11 (runway is too small), but technically you could deadhead out of there. BUT, I HAVE NEVER SEEN A PAIRING/TRIP WITH BUR IN IT YET. The reserve call out is 3 hours, but most of the time they give you more notice. I think LAX is going to go through a bit of a transition. I think it is going to go very Junior for the Captains, and the First Officers will be mixed (Senior at the top and very junior at the bottom). The lines are very difficult to commute to. A lot of pairings with one day on two days off, or three days on and three days off, etc. Very difficult to put trips back to back, to cut down on the commute. A new hire at FedEx could, if lucky, get to LAX (and ANC for that matter) within a 2-3 years, especially with the increase in the MD-11/MD-10 fleet. I think all people on property could be a wide-body first officer by year 3, assuming the fleet acquisitions go as planned.

Commute to ANC. All the westbound flights out of ANC leave in the morning. So if you commute to ANC LEGALLY, you must come in the day prior. Most of the lines are at most two or three departure lines, so you will only have to commute once or twice (three or more times if you are clueless on bidding/trip trading). Daily flights to ANC on FedEx from EWR, MEM, IND, OAK, and now LAX (except on Sunday for LAX). If you live on the west coast and commute, you will become a huge fan of Alaska Airlines (at least tickets on Alaska are very cheap); corporate ticket first class from LAX-ANC is less that $300.
 
FedEx Beoing 727 scheds (repeat)

Here is a repeat of a response I made a few months back about the types of lines in the Beoing:

Fedex schedules:



In the Boeing 727 there are several different “typical” pairings.



Bid months begin on a Mon and run for 4 or 5 weeks and end on a Sunday. Bid months are either 28 or 35 days long. Usually there are eight 4 week bid months and four 5 week bid months per year. Min line guarantee for 4 week month is 68 credit hours and 85 credit hours for a 5 week bid month. Reserve lines pay 96% of the average line guarantee. 15 days on reserve and 13 off for 4 week bid month and 19 reserve days on and 16 days off for 5 week bid month.



In general, here are some of the typical pairings at FedEx. DH equals deadhead on passenger carrier.



Majority of pairings: Week on, week off hub turn lines. DH MEM to outstation city on Mon morning. Hotel. Depart 9-10 pm. Fly 1 or 2 legs to hub (MEM, IND, OAK, AFW, EWR), arriving between 10 and midnight. Sit for sort. Depart back to outstation from 2-4 am. Get back to hotel between 6-7 am. Sleep. Repeat each night until Sat morning, then either layover and sleep or DH back to MEM (or home). Seniority depends on the number and length of legs and the outstation city. Commuters best friend if you live in the outstation city. Pays 35-40 hours per week.



Out and Backs (O/B):



AM: Depart MEM from 2 – 4 am, fly 1 or 2 legs to outstation. Fairly quick turn around and back to MEM by 7-9 am. 5-8 hours on duty, pays 6 hours per trip. Fly 3 or 4 days per week, mostly week days. Goes fairly junior among line holders, depending on the city pairing and the number of legs.



PM: Depart MEM 2-5 pm. Fly 1 or 2 legs to outstation. Sit in ramp office or hotel if over 4 hours, waiting for the incoming freight. Fly back to MEM at about 9-10 pm, arriving between 11:30 pm and 1 am. Fly it 4 or 5 times per week. 10 to 12 hours on duty, pays 6 hours per trip. Go pretty senior depending on number of legs and destination city.



Day turns. DH to outstation or hub on Sun. Depart hub to outstation around 7- 8 am. Sit in other city for 5 or 6 hours. Fly back to hub or outstation city. Fly each day of the week, then DH back to MEM. Week on, week off. These go out of several cities and several hubs, although there are not that many of them. Tend to go VERY senior. Pay about 34-40 hours per week.



Hotel/Airport Standbys: Week on, week off. DH to hub city other than MEM on Sun. Stand hotel standby for 12 hours or airport standby for 5 hours Mon through Fri or Sat, then DH back to MEM. Go VERY, VERY senior. Pay about 35 hours for possibly zero block time.



Various weekend layover, west coast 2 or 3 day trips, and fill in trips usually make up some of the other lines out there. There are also “trash” lines that go fairly junior among line holders that have very little city stability and often flip between day and night flying.



Finally, Reserve lines. 3 types. RSV, A and B reserve.



RSV is on call 24/7 but requires 24 hour notice for trip assignment. Same number of days per month as A and B reserve. Goes fairly senior due to commuter-friendly aspect of the 24 hour notice.



B reserve: on call from noon to midnight. 1.5 hour callout (min of 1 hour if given late call parking right next to Ops). Often assigned trips up to a day ahead of time, usually by 10 am that day, sometimes just an hour before. Can also be assigned airport standby at MEM on reserve days. Folks who live in Memphis sometimes prefer B reserve over junky lines.



A reserve: on call from midnight to noon, otherwise the same as B. Pretty much the most junior lines in the bid pack. Sometimes assigned trips a day ahead of time, sometimes just an hour or two notice.



Some reserve lines have all the days bunched together (commuter friendly) and some break them up into 4 to 7 day bunches. There is a little bit of everything, even SIBA reserve lines (see SIBA below).



So there you have it. It is very difficult to define a standard line at FedEx, there really is no such thing, but these are the types of typical lines. The most common is the week on week off hub turn type line. There is also SIBA, which in the 72 is special flying to South America, but there are only about 9 or 10 lines of that out of 225 or so regular lines.



I think most of the widebody aircraft have similar trips to these, with maybe longer and fewer legs typically to larger cities (more freight). They of course have more international pairings that I know nothing about, except that everybody says the catering and the layovers are killer (in a good way) and that the long trips can be killer (in a bad way) on the body clock. Other domiciles for the widebody aircraft include Subic Bay, ANC and LAX. SIBA in the Airbus is in Europe. I don’t know much at all about the trips they fly out of those domiciles.



Hope some of this info helps. Other FedEx folks feel free to jump in if I goobered anything up.

FJ
 
Current retirement benefits at FedEx:

A fund: 2% per year of service (up to 50% max) times the average amount earned over your highest five years (capped at 260K). So, max retirement right now would be 25 years of service, average 260K per year over high 5 years, retirement A fund = 130K per year. Various penalties for early retirement at 55 - 59 yoa. No lump sum option at this time. Survivor benefits available with reduced payout. As mentioned, who knows what this will look like down the road.

B fund: Company pays an amount equal to 6% of your earnings each month in a Vanguard fund in your name. Payable in lump sum upon retirement. Excess long term disability credit hours go into this fund after (if) you accrue 686 (or so) hours of unused sick leave.

401K: Company matches very small amount, usually 500 per year only. One year they matched 1000, not sure why. Again, this might go up if the A or B funds are changed, but who knows.

That is how they stand right now, to the best of my recollection.

Great place to work, can't wait for that promised raise with the new contract!

FJ
 
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New FDX Guy-

LAX has a 3 hour call out but depending on the time of day and where you live you'll need every second of it. The problem is...CRS will first notify you of a reserve assignment through VIPS, they won't call you at first. If you haven't logged in to VIPS to acknowledged the assigned trip ONLY then will CRS call you (3 hour notice) for the trip. So you better be showered and have your bag packed.

Pyscxic-

I don't like to depend on PAX carriers unless it is SWA, they are very generous to non-rev customers. Very rarely do I get turned away by the gate agents, a little sugar goes a long way. I always remember that it is a privilegde, not an entitlement, to ride along non-rev.
 
Purple Tail, et. al.,

Thanks for the plethora of info. Since no good deed goes unpunished, allow me to ask a couple of additional things. Forgive my naiveté; I don’t start until next month.

1. Does VIPS allow for some automated way to call your cell phone or e-mail a blackberry or something so that when CRS posts the trip it lets you know? In this day and age that should be relatively simple, but we did just get off of the cargo board last week.
2. Is the reserve leash three hours an absolute or is it three hours in ‘normal driving conditions?’ Example, Mapquest says just less than two hours from SD to LAX, but we all know that it could take much longer at the wrong times of day (most of the day, in fact).

I feel very fortunate to have gotten on with FedEx at all, but especially so with the projected hiring forecast. Things look pretty good, doubly so compared to the passenger side of the house. Thanks for all the info.

The humble new guy.
 
New guy,

Been out here at LAX for just about a year, and as far as I know, there isn't a way for you to get notified, unless you log into vips. The schedulers assign trips from 9-11am local, so what I do is just log on around noontime to check if I've been assigned anything. If you've got the nightime reserve, most of the LA basin flights leave around 7pm, a 6pm show, so I'm all packed and ready at home around 230pm, just in case someone goes sick. If you don't get a call by 4pm, odds are the night time launches are all covered. It is a hard 3 hour call, once I've been stuck on the 405, called skeds to let them know I was stuck in traffic, they said get there as soon as I could, was about 5 min late for check in, pushed on time, never heard anything about it(but I'm sure I've got some type of letter in my file). Have only been called out on 3 hour call 3 times in a year, most of the time its assigned to my via vips. Just check it around noon, and before you got to bed, no worries. Good luck staying awake thru indoc.
 
More Hiring.

Just got out of RG. The latest rumor on the street is 30 new hires a month. Also, sometime this year they want to have a "surge" month, where they want to hire 60 in one month. Evidentially they are still pretty short in the back of the 727. Plus 30 upgrades a month as well.

I asked our instructor if he thought the training dept could handle 60 guys in one month. He hesitated and said "I dont know."

As a side note he said it would take about 9 months to train everyone who moves on the seat bid that closes on the 31st.
 

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