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INDIGO
Yea......But my understanding from USA Jet guys.... to Get along with Ralph Hubble you have to meet two basic requirements....(1) Be EX Military.....(2) a Quite a Brown Noser...... Both are preferred.
I Know Dave.......Have great respect for him and don't believe he has any of the above qualities..........but Ralph Thinks so!!!!!!
Pilot Yip should know......in his 1st month at USA Jet he upset quite alot of pilots there and in one month 35 pilots left........
awhile later .......................
he was asked to do the same!!!
Yea......But my understanding from USA Jet guys.... to Get along with Ralph Hubble you have to meet two basic requirements....(1) Be EX Military.....(2) a Quite a Brown Noser...... Both are preferred.
I Know Dave.......Have great respect for him and don't believe he has any of the above qualities..........but Ralph Thinks so!!!!!!
Pilot Yip should know......in his 1st month at USA Jet he upset quite alot of pilots there and in one month 35 pilots left........
awhile later .......................
he was asked to do the same!!!
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35 pilots leaving
That really was not all Ralph. the owners had a bad coupe of months, laid off 20 pilots out of about 70, took away days off, lowered guarette (sp?) Spirit was hiring and losts the losses followed. So they needed a training program to rebuild and I ggot off of the unemployment line. There is a good side to everything. Only 3 of the lay offs came back and they were all gone by one year. I hear he is doing some good things to get the place organized like he did here at USA Jet.
That really was not all Ralph. the owners had a bad coupe of months, laid off 20 pilots out of about 70, took away days off, lowered guarette (sp?) Spirit was hiring and losts the losses followed. So they needed a training program to rebuild and I ggot off of the unemployment line. There is a good side to everything. Only 3 of the lay offs came back and they were all gone by one year. I hear he is doing some good things to get the place organized like he did here at USA Jet.
Ralph
Ralph Hubbel was not the reason any pilots left USA Jet. They left because they wanted to. Oh, sure, they may have said it was because of Ralph, but here's what really happened:
Those who were disgruntled with Ralph's management style, were so because it cramped their own. Ralph simply administered his duties the way the industry dictated. USA Jet is the best there is in what they do. But what they do is service a need that is not particularly conducive to the lifestyles of many people.
Many young, aspiring, inexperienced pilots went there hoping to gain the necessary experience required for employment at a major carrier or other career destination.
None of the conditions they encountered at USAJet were anywhere near as deplorable as those at other on-demand carriers. And, while it's true that conditions changed dramatically when the recession reared its ugly head, the decisions Ralph made were "strictly business" and his presence there brought never-before-seen changes toward improving the quality of life for the pilots........at least until he could no longer support those changes and still remain competive.
Yeah, everybody there who "left because of Ralph" didn't know the full story or else couldn't accept the possibility that they were simply to blame for their own unhappiness once they became qualified to go elsewhere.
I can't even begin to count the number of pilots who, when first hired, were eternally grateful for the coveted opportunity to "fly jets" and after 6 months to a year, suddenly became dismayed at the fact the conditions there didn't emmulate those at a major.
Sure, Ralph's tough to work for if you don't like to work. But if you do your job well (not brown nose) and keep your nose (whatever color) clean, he'll reward you with many years of gainful and satisfying employment.
If you work for him and begin to dislike him, it's probably because you deserve the treatment he's affording you.
Ralph Hubbel was not the reason any pilots left USA Jet. They left because they wanted to. Oh, sure, they may have said it was because of Ralph, but here's what really happened:
Those who were disgruntled with Ralph's management style, were so because it cramped their own. Ralph simply administered his duties the way the industry dictated. USA Jet is the best there is in what they do. But what they do is service a need that is not particularly conducive to the lifestyles of many people.
Many young, aspiring, inexperienced pilots went there hoping to gain the necessary experience required for employment at a major carrier or other career destination.
None of the conditions they encountered at USAJet were anywhere near as deplorable as those at other on-demand carriers. And, while it's true that conditions changed dramatically when the recession reared its ugly head, the decisions Ralph made were "strictly business" and his presence there brought never-before-seen changes toward improving the quality of life for the pilots........at least until he could no longer support those changes and still remain competive.
Yeah, everybody there who "left because of Ralph" didn't know the full story or else couldn't accept the possibility that they were simply to blame for their own unhappiness once they became qualified to go elsewhere.
I can't even begin to count the number of pilots who, when first hired, were eternally grateful for the coveted opportunity to "fly jets" and after 6 months to a year, suddenly became dismayed at the fact the conditions there didn't emmulate those at a major.
Sure, Ralph's tough to work for if you don't like to work. But if you do your job well (not brown nose) and keep your nose (whatever color) clean, he'll reward you with many years of gainful and satisfying employment.
If you work for him and begin to dislike him, it's probably because you deserve the treatment he's affording you.
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Indigo,
They claim for the cost of a coach class tickect they can take you from MDW to N.E. NY area for $629 each way. I am wondering why I have yet to see any commercials of them appear on TV. Maybe its time to challenge ATA's new fare structure.
you make the call
INDIGO $629 each way
ATA $99 each way
Who should we fly during tough economic times!!!!
They claim for the cost of a coach class tickect they can take you from MDW to N.E. NY area for $629 each way. I am wondering why I have yet to see any commercials of them appear on TV. Maybe its time to challenge ATA's new fare structure.
you make the call
INDIGO $629 each way
ATA $99 each way
Who should we fly during tough economic times!!!!
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Who would fly Indigo
Indigo is targeted at the traveling business traveler, who doesn't want to show up at a major airport 2 hours early at both ends of his business day. At Indigo you show up at the FBO 15 minutes prior to departure no hassle, no waiting, limo or cab meets you at the other end. And it is cheaper than first class, much cheaper than charter, and it is just about walk up coach on UAL, AA or NWA between those two cites. They are targeting frequent the business traveler who has the money not to put up with today's travel inconvenience.
Indigo is targeted at the traveling business traveler, who doesn't want to show up at a major airport 2 hours early at both ends of his business day. At Indigo you show up at the FBO 15 minutes prior to departure no hassle, no waiting, limo or cab meets you at the other end. And it is cheaper than first class, much cheaper than charter, and it is just about walk up coach on UAL, AA or NWA between those two cites. They are targeting frequent the business traveler who has the money not to put up with today's travel inconvenience.
taz
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Hey Yipstickwith Respect to Ralph
Though i will "agree generally" with with what you have said
however all the good benifits enjoyed at USA Jet were because of Marty.....and not Ralph!!! His Air Force brand of business was tollerated when Marty saw that Ralph had stepped all over too many people he fired him!
Its true what they say in Aviation what goes around comes back around to bite you in the Ass!
When you least expect it!
Sufferinsucatush!!!!
TAZ!
Though i will "agree generally" with with what you have said
however all the good benifits enjoyed at USA Jet were because of Marty.....and not Ralph!!! His Air Force brand of business was tollerated when Marty saw that Ralph had stepped all over too many people he fired him!
Its true what they say in Aviation what goes around comes back around to bite you in the Ass!
When you least expect it!
Sufferinsucatush!!!!
TAZ!
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