In Memory of Rich.

[-9Capt]

A valid point, but did the constant attacks by others help or hurt the situation that led to his decision? Either way, the people who attacked him better have a good umbrella policy.

To imply that someone is going to be sued over this is absolutely ridiculous.

 

[Kharma Police]

To imply that someone is going to be sued over this is absolutely ridiculous.

Then you and your fishing boat have nothing to worry about.

 

[-9Capt]

I'll be fine, thanks for caring.

 

[Fly-By-Cable]

Then you and your fishing boat have nothing to worry about.

Could you find a less emotional thread to troll on please.

 

[Kharma Police]

Could you find a less emotional thread to troll on please.

I'm sorry we can't all be as eloquent as you when you throw a guy who has passed under the bus.

 

[Fly-By-Cable]

I'm not throwing him under a bus. Did you read my post? I'm just saying that there has been a development last week that directly related to his views. I hope his decision was not related to union work. However, if you knew him enough you would know that he had a loving and supporting wife, tons of friends and supporters, had many nice things, was 5 days from becoming a SWA pilot, something he wanted, and arbitration ruling that is due out any moment now, if favorable to AirTran would have potential of him making captain pay while sitting in a right seat.

 

[Kharma Police]

I'm not throwing him under a bus. Did you read my post? I'm just saying that there has been a development last week that directly related to his views. I hope his decision was not related to union work. However, if you knew him enough you would know that he had a loving and supporting wife, tons of friends and supporters, had many nice things, was 5 days from becoming a SWA pilot, something he wanted, and arbitration ruling that is due out any moment now, if favorable to AirTran would have potential of him making captain pay while sitting in a right seat.

Yeah, I read it. It was tacky and insensitive.

 

[jetvison]

Please Stop.

 

[scarlet]

Godspeed Rich.

Ever hear guys, "if you can't say anything nice, say nothing at all"?
ONE day people will be saying RIP to you!

Kharma, you can't sue people for disagreeing with you. Typical AMERICAN=Blame someone else/or always looking to sue. SAD

 

[XGmaninGA]

I didn't know the guy, even though we both flew at AT. Any loss such as this diminishes us all. RIP and prayers for his wife.

 

[PCL_128]

Please Stop.

Amen. I know this place is completely classless, but let's try to change that when it comes to someone dying at least.

 

[AFcitrus]

Rest in Peace my friend. May God comfort and hold your family in His loving arms.

 

[OurMoney1]

Every 43 minutes someone dies from suicide.
Every 18 seconds someone attempts suicide.
People who die from suicide don't want their lives to end, they want their pain to end.
Mach you are an ignorant coward.
My thoughts are with my AirTran peers and our fallen brothers wife and family.
In unity even when it hurts.

 

[redflyer65]

Well said Money. The pain from depression (which can happen regardless of outside factors) can be horrible.

I'm sorry Rich decided to take his own life. Prayers to his wife and family. I wouldn't wish depression on anyone. It's painful for the person involved and their family.

PCL made a nice post on the other thread. People may not agree on every issue, but we should have a common ground that we don't get too personal no matter how much we disagree. I'm saddened that I didn't get to meet Rich and eventually fly with him. I think he would have liked working for SW. That goes for all my AirTran brothers and sisters as well.

Godspeed Rich.

 

[RIDETHELIGHTING]

He was good guy. Prayers for him and his family.

 

[mayoplane]

Only he knows.

I am deeply saddened by the news. While I never liked the guy and argued with him on subject of SLI at every opportunity, I feel very sorry for what happened. Rich was very passionate in what he believed. He loved SWA and trusted upper management. He convinced 86% of AirTran pilots to give up their seniority under strong argument that their jobs were at stake. Rich truly believed that. At recent arbitration, Company made a statement that the "Threat" was simply a negotiation tactic. It was a bluff, said Company VP, and your merger committee went for it. Basically they used Rich and others to set up positive relationship with SWAPA going into contract talks. And when he was no longer useful, they threw him under a bus making him scapegoat. I think it was too much for Rich to handle. Really sad.

It's amazing to me how some stranger thinks he knows exactly why the man ended his life and so confidently explains to others and blame certain party for what happened...... Come on now. We all have our personal issues and problems regardless of how happy we may look to others. Only that person really knows why this happened and nobody else.

RIP, brother. Prayers for his family, friends and Airtran Family.

 

[uba757]

Didn't know the gentleman but he is a fellow aviator! RIP

 

[BOX OFFICE]

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=153986

I think some of you should really feel ashamed of yourselves. Out of morbid curiosity, I searched his username and came out with this gem among others. internet bullying is right.

A case could be made that Ty Webb was legally culpable in this tragedy. PCL has no right to talk either.

Sad, sad, sad.

Words have meaning people. Anonymous typing CAN cause harm.

 

[Ty Webb]

"Morbid Curiosity"? You have no idea what was going on in his mind or his heart, and your comments are inappropriate and childish.

.

 

[BOX OFFICE]

You have no idea what was going on in his mind or his heart, and your comments are inappropriate and childish.

.

Like you should talk! Shame on you!

 

[Lear70]

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=153986

I think some of you should really feel ashamed of yourselves. Out of morbid curiosity, I searched his username and came out with this gem among others. internet bullying is right.

A case could be made that Ty Webb was legally culpable in this tragedy. PCL has no right to talk either.

Sad, sad, sad.

Words have meaning people. Anonymous typing CAN cause harm.

You really have no idea what was going on with the man. Calling out other people on a situation you don't know anything about and weren't involved with really doesn't help anything or anyone at this point.

Having known the man for nearly 15 years and flown with him at 2 different airlines, I can tell you he wasn't the type of person to be "internet bullied". Having talked to many of the people he was close to it appears it was, in part, related to work issues (SLI included), but not from what people wrote on a forum weeks ago.

Now can we please just let this thread be for people to express their condolences like Matt intended? I'm all for people being more civil (which is why I don't get on here much anymore) but let's not jump to conclusions and start slinging mud at people. Just take a moment to express your thoughts of someone who spent almost ALL their spare time trying to do what he thought was going to help other pilots. How you feel about that is your own business, heck I didn't agree with the man most of the time, but at least recognize someone who spent more time trying to help other people in this career than most of you (or even I) ever will.

 

[Flopgut]

Too much of this gets swept under the rug (saw it at my own airline). Not sure that not discussing the larger truths is what we should do? IMO: I've seen enough AirTran internal fighting... How was this not a result of divide and conquer on GK's part!? For God's sake, even in the wake of very clear B/M legislation, GK was able to do whatever he felt was fair. Did he not play this guy?

 

[AppBrookie]

Very Sorry to hear this, I was in the same '04 AT new hire class as Rich, I'm no longer w/ the company, so I've not spoken w/ him in several years.
Great guy, knowing his character, probably the last guy that I would expect this from. God bless his family and friends.

 

[jneely]

Didn't know him but his passion for what he believed in is to be respected. RIP my fellow Tranny.

 

[nck4857]

We'll miss you, Rich. RIP.

 

[Dashcaptain]

RIP Rich. I always enjoyed talking to him. I am extremely saddened and will miss not talking to him in the future.

Some of you guys should be ashamed of what you have said here. Now is not the time.

 

[Tarheelherk]

RIP fellow Tranny! For the rest of us, I can't imagine the hurt so bad you would consider suicide! But, You can't treat people like pawns, nameless numbers or seats to be "realized"! Carriers hard won now thrown into turmoil! All of you, GK, SWA, SWAPA, ALPA and me included, have this to live with! So caught up in how "I" can profit from this! Well a pilot was "Harmed", one of us! Sleep well, I won't!

 

[tankerhead]

Dude the period is at the bottom right of the keyboard!!!!!!!

 

[INIT REF]

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=153986

I think some of you should really feel ashamed of yourselves. Out of morbid curiosity, I searched his username and came out with this gem among others. internet bullying is right.

A case could be made that Ty Webb was legally culpable in this tragedy. PCL has no right to talk either.

Sad, sad, sad.

Words have meaning people. Anonymous typing CAN cause harm.

This really is too easy. These are all quotes by the compassionate, caring BOX OFFICE -

You are such a loser. ...
I thought you had me on ignore hot shot. You just can't resist can you? Your mom is calling, time to get off her computer and clean your room.
That and the fact that they laugh him out of the room every time he opens his trap on the majors board. Quintessential troll. Not even a pilot. Just ignore him!
Why are you responding to him? He is not a pilot. He's trying to get a rise out of you. Just ignore him. Everyone should.
You know you read what I wrote General Jackass.
Nevets just keeps repeating himself over and over like a trained parrot. How embarrassing.
But with your lack of intellect,...
She's probably depressed she married such an a$$hole.
And you're delusional...
Stop feeding the troll.
Just go away, and stop pretending to be a pilot.
THAT is the pinnacle of FI achievement, not 16,000 asinine posts and counting.
OMG what a dork-o-rama!
The word is ridiculous, not rediculous, moron.
Here's how I know you're a nobody.
What a truly sick, sad individual
If not, then shut your pie hole and mind your own business.
Can't wait until you're my gear b1tch. Be sure you say "yes ma'am".
You need to go back to MS flightsim and...
What a loser. No seriously, what a loser.
I swear to god OYS you are the stupidest person here.
Take a business class sometime Mr. Know It All.
Whatever you say GENERAL LOSER.
Why are you such a jerk all the time?

There are lots more. Sad, sad, sad.

 

[PCL_128]

PCL has no right to talk either.

You have no idea what my relationship was with Rich, so save your crap. Rich was a friend. We gave each other a hard time about the merger, because we both felt very strongly that our position was right, but when the merger talk was over, we had a drink and talked football, politics, boating, whatever, and we didn't take it personally.

Those of you who would like to make this yet another argument about the SLI, or who want to sling mud, should keep your comments to yourself. Give people some time to cope with some pretty awful news.