Impressions of ASA's training/standards dept.

[CF34-3B1]

Are the new guys coming in with attitudes?

When I was there it wasn't uncommon to fly with a low time newhire who was hanging on to the jet for dear life, but for the most part, they had really good attitudes.

Has that changed?

 

[CFI2766]

The ATR training department should be the example for all. Best Dudes at the company are in that dept.

Truth.

 

[FishandFly]

Randy Cash is an idiot.

He did part of my IOE and I could not disagree with you more.

By the way, what is your name, Mr. Anonymity Prick?

 

[HoserASA]

Randy Cash is an idiot.

I also disagree. RC is an excellent IP. Had him for a sim or two and his skill at putting one at ease and explaining material is superb. Perhaps you had a bad experience with him but most haven't.

Hoser

 

[HoserASA]

The ATR training department should be the example for all. Best Dudes at the company are in that dept.

While I agree with what you say about the ATR IPs, the RJ IPs are very good too.

Hoser

 

[GeekMaster]

Randy Cash is an idiot.

For you to say that about this particular IP just absolutely KILLED any credibility you will EVER have. Every "experienced" pilot who's ever had the opportunity to work with him knows that he's absolutely top notch. If you had a problem with him, I think pretty much everyone knows who had the problems

 

[Snapperhead]

R.C. is one of the best IPs we've got. Tons of experience at both ASA, and I believe Pan Am or Eastern. You learn a lot during one of his checkrides, and he does put you at ease. Don't go bashing one of the good guys; you must be either joking or you went to your checkride not having opened a book. Which was it?

 

[~~~^~~~]

Unfortunately, it's not a joke - it's absolutely true. Also true, the newbie that pulled out his Ipod after reaching cruise on his 3rd leg.

I had guys off IOE pull one out as we were descending through 14,000 feet into ATL because he was "bored." He also then got completely fascinated and terrified by the "Level 5 with extreeme precip just North of the airport!!!" on a beautiful clear day. Turned out he had the radar tilted so that he was picking up downtown ATL.

Yeah, they aint what they used to be when they came here from other regionals with 3,500 hours....

 

[N1VIBS]

Are the new guys coming in with attitudes?

When I was there it wasn't uncommon to fly with a low time newhire who was hanging on to the jet for dear life, but for the most part, they had really good attitudes.

Has that changed?

99% have good attitudes. But there is always that 1%.

 

[FishandFly]

I had guys off IOE pull one out as we were descending through 14,000 feet into ATL because he was "bored." He also then got completely fascinated and terrified by the "Level 5 with extreeme precip just North of the airport!!!" on a beautiful clear day. Turned out he had the radar tilted so that he was picking up downtown ATL.

Yeah, they aint what they used to be when they came here from other regionals with 3,500 hours....

I had a captain do the same thing. Painted memphis at night, got vectors around the scary city and carried on. Not a cloud in the sky.

Only reason I recognized it was that I did it a time or two a few years earlier.

 

[Blucher]

C'mon Blucher you have to have an opinion!!!!

Over all I'd have to agree that ASA has some of the best instructors around. Sadly I've also seen the very ugly side of a few of them (you know this ExHeloGuy). I'm very sad to see things look like they're going to change for the worse for the IP's if/when we ever get a new contract. I know our IP's work very hard and will go above and beyond whenever they are asked (by company or student). I hope the good ones will stay on even with the proposed changes. Realistically, though, I think many of them will go back to the line and/or go elsewhere for employment. Then we will be left with the IP's who are there for all the wrong reasons. The ego-trippers and ballbusters of the dept (yes, there are some of those too).

I also agree with the statements made about the ATR dept. being the ideal as far as training departments go. There just ain't a bad apple in that bunch at all (which is virtually unheard of in any group).

One more thing, Randy Cash is without a doubt the single best instructor I've ever had in any flight training at any level, and my training partner said the same. He is a truly gifted instructor and we are extremely lucky to have him.

What are your thoughts on the latest crop coming out of the school house, ExHeloGuy?

-Blucher

 

[Dude]

I did well with RC because I was always prepared. However, I have seen his behavior towards others and disagree wholeheartedly with his approach and disposition with regard to checking and jumpseat etiquette. Just one Dude's opinion. Perhaps he had a miserably bad day or three. I guess that is possible.

 

[Dude]

By the way, the ATR doesn't necessarily have the lot on good instructors. The RJ had some good ones as well. It is just remarkable that the ATR dept is that enjoyable to be a part of.

 

[asapilot]

I did well with RC because I was always prepared. However, I have seen his behavior towards others and disagree wholeheartedly with his approach and disposition with regard to checking and jumpseat etiquette. Just one Dude's opinion. Perhaps he had a miserably bad day or three. I guess that is possible.

I've never had an event with RC and he seems to be a good guy when he's around FSI doing classes or in the sim. However, I will back up the above comment. He taught part of EMB-120 upgrade when I was going through it and he yelled at and berated a student in front of the class for being one minute late returning to the class room. He first locked the door so no one could get in and then yelled at him through the door before letting him in and then continuing to go at him. Perhaps he was having a bad day and that's not his normal demeanor, but I thought it was pretty unprofessional and childish.

Of course this was 8 years ago or so, so maybe he's mellowed out now.

 

[ASADFW7]

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Are they still yelling at students in the sim?

 

[John Pennekamp]

Randy Cash is an idiot.

You're an idiot. Randy is one of the good guys. Did he bust you on a checkride you didn't bother to study for and injure your fragile little ego?

 

[ExHeloGuy]

Blucher,

I will keep silent on the matter.

 

[Airline RC]

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Are they still yelling at students in the sim?

Hold on tight.....the little brown man is flying !

 

[shamrock]

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Holy crap, I had him in recurrent a few years back and I didn't realize he was attending the class and not teaching it until day 3! I don't know how the guy that was actually running the class managed to avoid strangling him.

Just sit down and shut up Booby!

 

[McNugent]

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Are they still yelling at students in the sim?

I heard a lot of bad stuff about him before our training event. I was bracing for the worst, but I had a really good experience working with him.