ILS Video

[paulsalem]

I'm teaching IFR ground school tomorrow. Does anyone know of a Cat III ILS approach shot from a cockpit? I've checked flightlevel350.com but didnt' find one (just normal ILSs).

Thanks,

Paul

 

[GravityHater]

Would there be much to see in a cat III? Out the window, not much. Not much happening on the panel either. Now if you wanted to see needles dance and such, I'll send you a video of me handflying an ILS!

 

[down2mins]

Paul,
http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?p=CAT+III+approach&ei=UTF-8&b=0&oid=61703a02a415d818&rurl=flythebush.blogspot.com&vdone=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.yahoo.com%2Fvideo%2Fsearch%3Fp%3DCAT%2BIII%2Bapproach%26ei%3DUTF-8&vback=Results

 

[P-Dawg_QX]

Paul,
http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?p=CAT+III+approach&ei=UTF-8&b=0&oid=61703a02a415d818&rurl=flythebush.blogspot.com&vdone=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.yahoo.com%2Fvideo%2Fsearch%3Fp%3DCAT%2BIII%2Bapproach%26ei%3DUTF-8&vback=Results

Did I hear, "Autopilot off" on the rollout? You mean to tell me that they didn't hand-fly that thing? Weak.

 

[paulsalem]

Would there be much to see in a cat III? Out the window, not much. Not much happening on the panel either. Now if you wanted to see needles dance and such, I'll send you a video of me handflying an ILS!

Haha yea tell me about it. As a CFII I get to actually fly an ILS one every 6 months on average.

I get seasick just watching the LOC needle wave back and forth.

 

[paulsalem]

Thanks Mins.

 

[Foxcow]

Is it me or does that look like a displaced threshold that the aircraft touched down on?

 

[dseagrav]

Just to get all of the eventual trolling out of the way: Obviously the PFTers flying this Airbus need an autopilot because Bush won't let them fly the airplane unless they takeoff from a conveyor belt in order to burn more fuel to fund his corporate overlords who need more chemtrail goo for their secret global conspiracy to have Frank Lorenzo elected emperor of the world.

That should just about do it...

 

[Thresh]

Nice one.

 

[paulsalem]

Just to get all of the eventual trolling out of the way: Obviously the PFTers flying this Airbus need an autopilot because Bush won't let them fly the airplane unless they takeoff from a conveyor belt in order to burn more fuel to fund his corporate overlords who need more chemtrail goo for their secret global conspiracy to have Frank Lorenzo elected emperor of the world.

That should just about do it...

You forgot how the CFI that was making $15,000 a year, flying a poorly maintained C-172 A model, decided to fly a jet for $22,000 a year, is single handedly brining down the entire airline industry.

 

[Hung Start]

They can call that a Cat III, but it must have been for ceiling only. Forward visibility looked pretty good, imo.
Go to ACK for a while, the "standard" Cat I seems to have a visibility a LOT less than that!
But then again, a lot seems optimistic at ACK.

Hung

 

[BcPilot99]

Is it me or does that look like a displaced threshold that the aircraft touched down on?

You know I was thinking the same thing when I watched it! Technically that wasnt legal...But their french ....

 

[BcPilot99]

Is it me or does that look like a displaced threshold that the aircraft touched down on?

You know after watching it a few times it looks like they land on the normal runway and a displaced threshold starts.... Kinda confusing


Can anyone explain that?

 

[down2mins]

You know I was thinking the same thing when I watched it!

Me too!

 

[unreal]

The runway was probably extended at some point, but for whatever reason the old paint from the original displaced threshold is still there. That's my guess.

 

[Rally]

Was that Stephen Hawking calling out the altitudes in the jumpseat?

 

[falconvalley]

I think they have to use the Autoland on a Cat III. Not sure, but that's what I've heard.

 

[McNugget]

Was that Stephen Hawking calling out the altitudes in the jumpseat?

No, they were flying an Airbus. That's what their robo-voice sounds like.

 

[flatspin7]

I think they have to use the Autoland on a Cat III. Not sure, but that's what I've heard.

Unless the Aircraft has a HUD (Heads up display) All Cat III landings are autolands, same with cat 2 below 1200 RVR (at CAL)

 

[timeoff]

Was that Stephen Hawking calling out the altitudes in the jumpseat?

"....retard...retard...."

 

[falconvalley]

They can call that a Cat III, but it must have been for ceiling only. Forward visibility looked pretty good, imo.
Go to ACK for a while, the "standard" Cat I seems to have a visibility a LOT less than that!
But then again, a lot seems optimistic at ACK.

Hung

There's no ceiling there. You can see the blue sky above. Looks like they were landing in fog. Besides, approaches are all viz, no ceiling. The minimum descent altitudes are exactly that, minimum descent altitudes. Has nothing to do with ceiling.

 

[Bluto]

Except that on an ILS it's called Decision Altitude. Not minimum descent altitude. But, um, thanks for the instrument lesson...

 

[AWACO]

never mind...not worth it

 

[tomgoodman]

Decision Altitude

Except that on an ILS it's called Decision Altitude. Not minimum descent altitude. But, um, thanks for the instrument lesson...

Except that on a Cat III autoland, it's an Alert Height (AH), not a Decision Altitude. You may not see any lights ahead (except for a glow) until the nose lowers after main gear touchdown. Our AH was 50 ft RA/ 50 ft above TDZE Baro. Interestingly, the SFL (Rabbit) was required for Cat II but not for Cat III---you would be past it before you could see it.

 

[sleddriver71]

Except that on an ILS it's called Decision Altitude. Not minimum descent altitude. But, um, thanks for the instrument lesson...

Actually I think it's decision height, thanks for playing, come again.

 

[timeoff]

Actually I think it's decision height, thanks for playing, come again.

DH - height above threshold
DA - height in reference to MSL

I am curious, isn't DH always going to be 200ft? What instances would it not be?

 

[Joshrk22]

DH - height above threshold
DA - height in reference to MSL

I am curious, isn't DH always going to be 200ft? What instances would it not be?

CAT
I - 200 ft
II - 100 ft
IIIa - No DH
IIIb - No DH
IIIc - No DH

 

[timeoff]

Sorry, I should have been more specific. Will a cat one DH ever differ from 200ft?

 

[Foxcow]

I guess it differs with the approach. I have seen some Cat I approaches with slightly higher than 200' DAs